The 320 Club

Google Earth can tell you all you want it to.....but it wont be accurate.

So if, using Google Earth, I measure from 3 yards behind the winter tee to one yard in front of a tree by the side of the green, that's not really 320 yards, but is, in fact 270 yards?
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Precisely, timgolfy, save the trouble of all. Dro along to meet up with a local forum member and demonstrate your driving skills, maybe you can also demonstrate how to hit every ball so cleanly.

I would genuinely like to know what excercises and techniques you have used to develop your power and speed.
 
So what you're saying is.......you've been playing for no time at all, and all of a sudden, you can hit the ball further than these Pro's who've been plying their trade and smacking balls for years and years......
PGA Driving Stats.
Rank Leader Rounds Total
1 J.B. Holmes 28 311.7
2 Bubba Watson 31 310.7
3 Dustin Johnson 25 310.0
4 Chris Baryla 15 309.0
5 Angel Cabrera 18 303.1
TOUR Average 285.6yds.

Do me a favour.
 
Tim a lot of the people here joke about being able to nail it over 300 regularly.

Less than 1% of a recent poll on the forum claim to be able to hit the driver over 300yards the average is around 250 yards.

Are you going to let us all know what we can do to improve so quickly????????
 
Timgolfy- whats your handicap?

I for one believe that you can hit the ball "x amount" of yards, I have been playing with a friend through the winter who hits the ball 300 plus easily off the tee and mostly down the middle!
However, he is [****] at golf!!
Is there not a long drive forum out there somewhere?
 
I'm pretty sure you'll find a lot of people on here have hit that distance with the right conditions.

When you hit 360, give me a phone and i'll put you up for membership of that club!

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So what you're saying is.......you've been playing for no time at all, and all of a sudden, you can hit the ball further than these Pro's who've been plying their trade and smacking balls for years and years......
PGA Driving Stats.
Rank Leader Rounds Total
1 J.B. Holmes 28 311.7
2 Bubba Watson 31 310.7
3 Dustin Johnson 25 310.0
4 Chris Baryla 15 309.0
5 Angel Cabrera 18 303.1
TOUR Average 285.6yds.

Do me a favour.

That is their AVERAGE drive length though... Guys like Bubba and Dustin Johnson bust out 350+ yd drives quite regularly but they also hit a lot of 290-300 yd drives which balance it out.... also those stats just measure every tee shot on the "qualifying holes" each week so it includes time when some players might take 3 wood or an iron off the tee.

But anyway I can see why loads of people dont believe this guy as it is very rare for someone to take up the game so late and be able to hit the ball those distances, but its not impossible. I would say looking at your swing that you arent getting those distances but that is a complete guess in all honesty, and you could well be.

Theres no doubting that blokes have this huge ego thing about hitting the ball long, and thats obviously the reason why this guy is getting so much stick. I think you guys do need to chill a bit though and stop calling this guy a BS'er without proof. Whether you are right or wrong its a bit sad tbh...
 
I for one have no problem with Timgolfy and as mentioned before he gets a lot of stick just for sharing what he is working on with people who are supposed to be like minded golfers. If you are bored by his posts don't read them that's what I do when people post about chipping lessons or golf tuition in general as it doesn't interest me but I don't and to be fair don't see timgolfy write negative comments on the posts.

Also just because he doesn't want to play a round of golf wih a forum member so what, he doesn't have to prove it to anyone on here. Plus after the negative comments he has got from some of the forum would he be able to play to his full pontential being as I can't imagine he would feel relaxed. Just my opinion.
 
I must say I have no problem with tim trying to hit the ball a long way, albeit his attitude does seem to be that he is right and we're all wrong but hey ho, he won't be the first, especially for those of us with wives!

You look like a big lad with an athletic swing on that video Tim but, and this is only through youtube, it didn't actually look that fast to me. What swing speed are you at now? I would have thought there'd be more flex/bend in the shaft but that may be down to lack of lag (I have never claimed to be an expert!) or you're using a scaffold pole for a shaft?

Also, I think in that post you said 120mph (?) swing speed would = 300 yards, where did you get that from? Out of interest, not baiting.
 
NWJocko: You're right about that video. I estimate the clubhead speed in that to be around 105mph, very little lag, just a big turn and arm swing. I'll post future videos. It's a Ping G15 9deg with Grafalloy Red shaft.

The swing speed and distance calculations come from Titleist. I presume this is total roll (averaged). There are probably other resources.

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NWJocko: You're right about that video. I estimate the clubhead speed in that to be around 105mph, very little lag, just a big turn and arm swing. I'll post future videos. It's a Ping G15 9deg with Grafalloy Red shaft.

The swing speed and distance calculations come from Titleist. I presume this is total roll (averaged). There are probably other resources.

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Cheers for that. I assume there will also be other factors to take into account (that only entered my consciousness through a driver fitting courtesy of GM) such as launch angle and spin rate and "smash" factor (not entirely sure what that is but a cool name!). Looks about right for the numbers I got at my fitting.

Hitting that many balls and that distance you'd definitely gain from a full custom fit for a driver if you haven't already?
 
Regarding google maps, did you have terrain turned off?

Ignoring the issue of whether you could accurately pick the excat spots you started from and where the ball landed, terrain is a big issue too.

Example; if I measured from a point to another point that was 1m horizontally away and 1m vertically away, google would give the distance between the points as 2m. Whilst this is technically correct, a drive hit between the two points would have only travelled 1m (I'm a short hitter!).

Also whilst hypothetically google earth maybe more accurate than a GPS or laser, it doesn't take into account any error originating from the user, which is far more likely on google than with a lser or GPS.

Not to say you can't hit it 320, maybe you even actually hit it 350, but to find out you need a more scientific form of measurement.

Same with using the clubhead speed chart. You may have swung at 120mph to hit it 300 or you may have swung at 150 and had really terrible contact and so left a lot of yards out there.
 
Absolutely. Total distance is affected by some many factors, such as ball type/temperature, weather conditions, spin rate, etc, and of course wind. I'll get a proper fitting when the swing is finally settled.

Club head speed + contact + other factors = total distance.

Smash Factor = Ball Speed / Clubhead speed. Most tour pros operate with a smash factor of 1.48, so 110mph gives 162 mph ball speed.

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Regards Google Earth: yes, of course, the difficulty is in a) remembering exactly where you shot from/to, and b) being able to accurately identify that on a map. Some shots are particularly easy to measure (winter tee to green), others less so. I'll endeavour to do GPS reading from now on to confirm, but not sure how to laser to a ball 320 yards away (I can barely keep it still enough to do a tree at that range).
 
i have never heard or read so much bull in my " career" who gives a toss how far you hit it,allegedly,measuring on google maps pish,get yourself a proper measuring device and post the picture not a spoof one but a real one.

you do make for a nightly laugh ,showed my mates and they think your a right knob. :)


Steve, I think we should roll out Calum! :D

Then we'll see how the real big boys who can do it, do it!
 
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