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played in a 3 ball today,

one of my playing partners took a tee shot with his feet in front of the tee pegs,
the ball was behind the tee pegs,
the other player pulled him up for a penalty,
i thought as long as ball behind he was ok

any ideas greatly appreciated

Cheers Scott
 
scottkw2003 said:
played in a 3 ball today,

one of my playing partners took a tee shot with his feet in front of the tee pegs,
the ball was behind the tee pegs,
the other player pulled him up for a penalty,
i thought as long as ball behind he was ok

any ideas greatly appreciated

Cheers Scott
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No penalty!

Complete myth!

Toss a Rule Book to the guy and demand he show where it states there's a penalty - or donate £10 to Captain's Charity and buy the group a round of drinks!

You can even stand outside (and in front of) the pegs, to optimise the angle, if you want - as long as the ball is between and behind the pegs! Not something I'm comfortable with though as I imagine hitting the peg with my swing!
 
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scottkw2003 said:
played in a 3 ball today,

one of my playing partners took a tee shot with his feet in front of the tee pegs,
the ball was behind the tee pegs,
the other player pulled him up for a penalty,
i thought as long as ball behind he was ok

any ideas greatly appreciated

Cheers Scott
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A myth and totally wrong. Was it a comp. If so and the guy was forced to sing for a wrong score I'd want an apology from the guy when he's shown you where it's in the rules
 
scottkw2003 said:
the ball was behind the tee pegs,
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whilst on the subject it might help to understand that it's not even 'the ball behind the pegs' - basically some part of the ball (it's irrelevant where the tee peg is put into the ground) needs to be inside the teeing ground - which extends to the plane of the outside edges of the tee markers.

why anyone would want to be anywhere near such limits always amuses me (although some have suggested that I do it to stimulate discussion from time to time :))
 
HomerJSimpson said:
A myth and totally wrong. Was it a comp. If so and the guy was forced to sing for a wrong score I'd want an apology from the guy when he's shown you where it's in the rules
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To be fair HJS it's bad that he got penalised for a golf rule myth but just as bad that he didn't know either. The best way to stop these issues is to spend a bit of time learning the basics of the the rules and to carry the good book and,as has been said, asking to be show the rule!
 
scottkw2003 said:
played in a 3 ball today,

one of my playing partners took a tee shot with his feet in front of the tee pegs,
the ball was behind the tee pegs,
the other player pulled him up for a penalty,
i thought as long as ball behind he was ok

any ideas greatly appreciated

Cheers Scott
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Maybe the other player was a rugby player, where if you step over the sidelines with your feet you are out of play, even if the ball remains in!

The R&A definition of a teeing ground is as follows:

The "teeing ground" is the starting place for the hole to be played. It is a rectangular area two club-lengths in depth, the front and the sides of which are defined by the outside limits of two tee-markers. A ball is outside the teeing ground when all of it lies outside the teeing ground.

You can stand outside the teeing ground to play a ball inside it by the way. :)
 
delc said:
Maybe the other player was a rugby player, where if you step over the sidelines with your feet you are out of play, even if the ball remains in!

The R&A definition of a teeing ground is as follows:

The "teeing ground" is the starting place for the hole to be played. It is a rectangular area two club-lengths in depth, the front and the sides of which are defined by the outside limits of two tee-markers. A ball is outside the teeing ground when all of it lies outside the teeing ground.

You can stand outside the teeing ground to play a ball inside it by the way. :)
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Thank you delc. That was really helpful.... it removed a huge amount of doubt for me... :confused:
 
chrisd said:
Imurg said:
Anyone else trying to picture taking a tee shot with your ball behind the markers but your feet in front...
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I'd like to see Mark Crossfield do a video on that!
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While I was simply making the point, perhaps the vid could be shot on the 6th of The Berkshire Red. Certainly optimises the Tiger line!:thup:

PS: I'm not certain that's the correct digit being shown in the smiley above! :D
 
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delc said:
The R&A definition of a teeing ground is as follows:

The "teeing ground" is the starting place for the hole to be played. It is a rectangular area two club-lengths in depth, the front and the sides of which are defined by the outside limits of two tee-markers. A ball is outside the teeing ground when all of it lies outside the teeing ground.
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Good one :) so your tee can be in the ground 0.84" beyond the outer limit of the teeing ground and you are still compliant with the rules - I like that - but I wouldn't bother - I generally tee up at about one foot behind the middle line of the markers.

On Sat I pulled a team member in our roll-up 3ball Am-Am group up for teeing up ahead of the teeing ground on one hole. I apologised as it seemed pernickety - us being in a friendly knock and all that - but he thanked me as he said he does tee up close to the line and it is good that I pulled him up when it didn't matter so that he remembers to check when it does.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Good one :) so your tee can be in the ground 0.84" beyond the outer limit of the teeing ground and you are still compliant with the rules - I like that - but I wouldn't bother - I generally tee up at about one foot behind the middle line of the markers.

On Sat I pulled a team member in our roll-up 3ball Am-Am group up for teeing up ahead of the teeing ground on one hole. I apologised as it seemed pernickety - us being in a friendly knock and all that - but he thanked me as he said he does tee up close to the line and it is good that I pulled him up when it didn't matter so that he remembers to check when it does.
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The penalty for teeing up the ball outside the teeing area in strokeplay is 2 shots and you then have to play another ball from within the correct teeing teeing area, or risk a DQ. Therefore it is a good idea to be a bit conservative about where you tee off from. I always play from a few inches behind the markers, just to be on the safe side! Rule 11-4b.
:fore:
 
..and so to be absolutely correct - assuming the tee peg is in the ground vertically, the vertical centre line of the tee peg should be no further than 0.84" in front of the outside limits of the two tee markers :)
 
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