Swing Speed - Holy Cow!

God, I got bored half way down this thread......but ....

timgolfy: you're nearly 40, no real Handicap as yet, altho you think you're a '12 Handicap'.

I think thats all I need to know - in my honest & humble opinion, whatever you do in the garden with your Swing Speed Monitor, or on the course, or at the Range,.......you will NEVER get to Scratch. Period. Simple as.
Your boat for that destination has sailed a very long time ago matey.

Beleive me, I play with Scratch golfers often, and its a different game to me, even off 10.
Hell, - ive even marked a Gross 63 Medal Score, - and however much I play at 48yrs, I'll never get close.

Wakey wakey.
 
You must be very naieve, thick skinned, inexperienced, or arrogant. You will not reach scratch - that I'm certain of. You may reach a decent single figure level but your whole approach is wrong. Long doesn't = better. Learn how to shape shots (you still need to hit irons/woods into par 5's) and how to chip and putt. Then and only then will you get better. By the way you've hardly played on a proper course so can't see how you've anything to back up any of this.

A lot of very good golfers and pros are telling you that what you are saying is misguided at best but you still seem to know best. If I didn't know better I'd assume this whole post had been some sort of wind up
 
Many thanks for all the opinions offered. I started this thread to express my astonishment at the difference in clubhead speed between myself (a better-than-average hitter) and most of the pros. It's been an interesting debate. :)

I asked:
Q1. Why can't I hit it as far as the pros?
A1. "They're gifted"

Q2. How can I hit the ball 290 yards
A2. "Why do you want to? 250 is enough"

I will post a couple of videos showing my progress in my attempt for 290!
 
It's ego.
And I also believe it's the fastest way to scratch, since hitting a PW onto the green is a lot easier than hitting a 5 iron onto it.
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This is the bit you seem to be missing, if you have good technique you won't find hitting a 5i to a green any harder than hitting a wedge.

Clearly I don't know you but from reading this thread I would say you are trying to hide your lack of ability. I'm guessing when you miss the green from the middle of one of these 80% of fairways you apparently hit you think it's because you didn't hit your drive far enough? On most holes on most courses, 250yds leaves you sub-150 to the centre of the green which is a 7 or 8 iron. If you're not hitting most greens with an 8-iron then what makes you think you'll hit them from 100yds with a wedge? I've got news for you, the reason you don't play off scratch isn't because you only drive the ball 250yds, it's because you aren't a good enough golfer.

Forget comparing your swing speed with the pros, you aren't and never will be one, and start worrying about improving your golf.
 
I am sure you will get one out there at 290 given enough go's at it. I have, and have a similar swing speed to you. My average distance is way less though.

I am not a long hitter by any means, but every now and then I hook it up. This is what makes me think trying to hit it harder is a waste of time. I have what it takes to hit it long, and it's called timing. Sadly, I can't reproduce it often.
 
Ahem! Might I just suggest a far simpler explanation to the OP - that doodad of yours could just be a tad....errr.... inaccurate - maybe you already are swinging it at over the ton.... :)


......or maybe you're just managing 75mph like us old farts and duffers! :D
 
Many thanks for all the opinions offered. I started this thread to express my astonishment at the difference in clubhead speed between myself (a better-than-average hitter) and most of the pros. It's been an interesting debate. :)
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Utter bollocks you are 40ish and dont even have a handicap although you are a better than average hitter?
 
Tim how long are the courses that you will be playing at? I don't average anywhere near 290 and still use a wedge into a lot of par 4s.

If you hit it 250, straight, are you hitting more that a 7i into most greens?
 
This is the bit you seem to be missing, if you have good technique you won't find hitting a 5i to a green any harder than hitting a wedge.
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That's not at all true. We all know that the greater the loft of the club the greater the control. That's why Tiger and Phil hitting a 5 iron to a 200 yard green both finished 15 yards left. On the next hole, both hitting a PW go to within 4 yards. Hell, even the commentators say the same thing about Luke Donald, who has to rely on an exception approach play to hit the greens.

The good news - just had a session at the range, working on increasing clubhead speed. I started swinging "naturally" as I was before, and was hitting around 95mph. Then I started to ramp up as best I could and after a while was averaging 108mph with reasonable contact. That was sending the range balls to 240 yards, albeit with a tail wind. With ProV1Xs add another 20-30 yards?

The best hit and fastest was 117mph which cleared the fence at the back at 250 yards. I will post a video shortly.
 
So you've gained 20-30mph in one day?

Did you have weetabix this morning!?

Tbh, i couldnt give a flying one how far you hit the ball.
 
If Tim's theory was right, the guys that compete at the highest levels of long driving competitions would be making a fortune on the pro circuit - but they are not.

The longest hitters on the tour are not necessarily the top money earners.

As I noted on another thread, an easy lay-up shot often goes much further that you would normally expect for the club used. Timing and technique are far more important than sheer swing speed.

If the OP wants to have the fastest swing on the range, that's up to him. I'd rather be playing golf (or what passes as golf at my age )
 
I'm impressed the driving rang in Inverness I'm lucky to hit the ball 200 yards !

Two questions;

1)When are you starting on the tour?

2) will you sign my autograph :D :D :D
 
The good news - just had a session at the range, working on increasing clubhead speed. I started swinging "naturally" as I was before, and was hitting around 95mph. Then I started to ramp up as best I could and after a while was averaging 108mph with reasonable contact. That was sending the range balls to 240 yards, albeit with a tail wind. With ProV1Xs add another 20-30 yards?

The best hit and fastest was 117mph which cleared the fence at the back at 250 yards. I will post a video shortly.
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Fluent bull and quite frankly I (and I'm guessing a fair majority of others) find this difficult to believe. You've hardly ever played and yet can drive like a pro. Are you sure that net you hit was the back and not the side. Frankly I'm getting bored of your idle boasts and it is clearly a willy waving exercise. So Bored of it now
 
At the end of the day, your approach to golf is entirely up to you and the your business and that of your pro.

This thread has degenerated a bit and become a little bit personal (unnecessarily).

Whatever else, there is a great deal of experience on here because so very many of us have been where you are starting out and had similar ideas about trying to hit it as far as possible.

To a man (and probably woman), we have learned often through bitter experience that trying to hit it as far as possible and scoring well are, all too often, mutually exclusive.

We have all learned, over the years, and some quicker than others (myself one of the slowest) that accuracy in hitting fairways and greens and a good short game are more important to your success and enjoyment of the game than power.

I raised the point initially that I felt, and still feel, that using swing speed as any kind of significant measure of success, progress or evidence of improvement is fundamentally wrong.

But I am not you nor are the rest of us. It is your journey in golf not ours and you are fully entitled to decide how you wish to approach that journey.

Many of us have offered our thoughts based on our experiences and all the mistakes we have made (and there have been many). It's up to you if you want to take any of that on board.

Anyway, good luck!
 
Ok, if you want to hit it long and straight, here's what you have to do.
You have to have good swing speed
You have to have a good angle of attack/launch angle
You have to swing it in the right direction
You have to hit the sweet spot
You have to point the clubface in the right direction.

These are the 5 ball flight laws.
Do yourself a favour and read up on them and then try and increase your distance.
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You missed Ball flight #6 - don't attempt with a Topflite!






An old teacher I once knew told me "if you want to hit it further, hit it better"
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..and how is Yoda nowadays Bob? :p
 
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