Summer Transfer Window

[Papas1982]

Out of interest, who would be the 3 Soton players you would hate to lose next year, and in what order. You've got some cracking players, but who do you rate the highest and most influential.

Lallana is key. Plain and simple Ramirez isn't up to it and prowse needs another year. We need another striker too, but lambert won't leave so he won't need replacing and shaw could be covered again by clyne. Ideally they all stay. But I think if the captain leaves then trouble will follow.

 

[SaintHacker]

I would not pay much more than £20M for a player that has had one good season in the PL, who has no European competition experience and not really proven on the international stage either.

With respect you haven't watched him grow from the youth team into the player he is today. He is the real deal and is only going to get better. you say you wouldn't spend more than £20m on him, I wouldn't pick up the phone for less than 35.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

With respect you haven't watched him grow from the youth team into the player he is today. He is the real deal and is only going to get better. you say you wouldn't spend more than £20m on him, I wouldn't pick up the phone for less than 35.

He is a good player no doubt - but even in todays market he isnt worth more than £20mil and thats what i expect him to go for maybe a bit less.

£35mil ? - you are talking Top Quality Proven Players going for less than that.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

With respect you haven't watched him grow from the youth team into the player he is today. He is the real deal and is only going to get better. you say you wouldn't spend more than £20m on him, I wouldn't pick up the phone for less than 35.

I respect the fact he's a product of the youth system and is developing into a fine young player. He's had a decent season, season and a half and got the England recognition off the back of that. However he has no Europa or CL experience and so to a large degree untested against the top class defences across the continent. I think on that basis £20m would be a better than average price at this stage of his career

 

[Papas1982]

I respect the fact he's a product of the youth system and is developing into a fine young player. He's had a decent season, season and a half and got the England recognition off the back of that. However he has no Europa or CL experience and so to a large degree untested against the top class defences across the continent. I think on that basis £20m would be a better than average price at this stage of his career

Whilst I think £35m may seem extreme, but he's more than proven when compared to Barkley who's touted at similar prices. He's also English, rightly or wrongly home grown players cost a premium. And in the sell on clause and I'd imagine saints will want at least 20m to go to them. I think we'll try to hang it out til after WC. If he plays well there then 20m won't be enough.

 

[Papas1982]

It is hardly rocket science to any person the understands football. Cech on way out, as is terry and Cole is leaving that's 3. Lampard is getting old and Luiz is a liability, that's 5 needed. It's common knowledge throughout football that 3 strikers are needed that equals 8. If as it's touted Oscar will leave that's 9. So Fundy how wrong am I. By the looks of it not very

lampard has has been replaced by Matic, Terry will play next season. You've not played cole all year so why does he need replacing?

 

[MadAdey]

With respect you haven't watched him grow from the youth team into the player he is today. He is the real deal and is only going to get better. you say you wouldn't spend more than £20m on him, I wouldn't pick up the phone for less than 35.

He's one of your best players I understand that and you want a good price for him, but you are talking about the same money as Mata. Both the same age, but Mata has extensive international and European experience. You can't tell me he is worth as much as Mata, can you. If Southampton try and hold out for something like £35m then they might be waiting a long time.

 

[Papas1982]

He's one of your best players I understand that and you want a good price for him, but you are talking about the same money as Mata. Both the same age, but Mata has extensive international and European experience. You can't tell me he is worth as much as Mata, can you. If Southampton try and hold out for something like £35m then they might be waiting a long time.

Examples of good valuing and over paying are easy to show. Sturridge was 9m Carroll was 35m. Who's he better? I personally think you're in need of proven and that's what he is. 20m nets us £15m. Who could we replace him for for that?

 

[MadAdey]

Examples of good valuing and over paying are easy to show. Sturridge was 9m Carroll was 35m. Who's he better? I personally think you're in need of proven and that's what he is. 20m nets us £15m. Who could we replace him for for that?

If Lallana has a good world cup I can imagine that his stock will go up with it. When you start going up the £25/£30 Million plus level you are looking for someone who is a proven player who has played at the highest level against the best players and proven they can cut it. I will not be very happy if I saw Liverpool paying over £20m for him. It is not like City and Chelsea who can afford to spend big to get players, they have a relatively small transfer budget compared to them and need to get some good deals

 

[Papas1982]

If Lallana has a good world cup I can imagine that his stock will go up with it. When you start going up the £25/£30 Million plus level you are looking for someone who is a proven player who has played at the highest level against the best players and proven they can cut it. I will not be very happy if I saw Liverpool paying over £20m for him. It is not like City and Chelsea who can afford to spend big to get players, they have a relatively small transfer budget compared to them and need to get some good deals

thats t's fair enough, like I say. Why would we sell him before World Cup? His value isn't likely to drop even if he doesn't play. But if he plays and plays well. Then he's worth 30 compared to some markets.

also gotta remember UTD are desperate so that could increase value. If he goes for £20 I would say it was a bad price for us. I'd be more worried we sold him, no matter the price.

 

[Pin-seeker]

If Lallana has a good world cup I can imagine that his stock will go up with it. When you start going up the £25/£30 Million plus level you are looking for someone who is a proven player who has played at the highest level against the best players and proven they can cut it. I will not be very happy if I saw Liverpool paying over £20m for him. It is not like City and Chelsea who can afford to spend big to get players, they have a relatively small transfer budget compared to them and need to get some good deals

Think Carroll had only played half season in the Prem when Liverpool signed him. £35m would be a lot for Lellana but if he has a decent World Cup then Liverpool would probably pay it so they don't miss out like they did with Willian,Erricson & Salah.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

We wont pay £35mil for Lallana - he isnt worth it - regardless of what happens in the World Cup - have a sneaky feeling the deal will be sorted before the WC behind the scenes. Been told two deals are done for a couple players from abroad. Two young hotshot players.

And believe we didnt make a bid for Eriksson.

Thankfully we have learned from the Carroll episode and wont go mad like that again.

 

[richart]

Whilst I think £35m may seem extreme, but he's more than proven when compared to Barkley who's touted at similar prices. He's also English, rightly or wrongly home grown players cost a premium. And in the sell on clause and I'd imagine saints will want at least 20m to go to them. I think we'll try to hang it out til after WC. If he plays well there then 20m won't be enough.

Barkley is just 20, and is the best prospect I have seen for years. Two footed, great strength, and pace. If I was going to buy an English midfielder for 20 million plus he would be the one. Hopefully he has the desire of a Gerrard to go with all the natural talents.

 

[Papas1982]

We wont pay £35mil for Lallana - he isnt worth it - regardless of what happens in the World Cup - have a sneaky feeling the deal will be sorted before the WC behind the scenes. Been told two deals are done for a couple players from abroad. Two young hotshot players.

And believe we didnt make a bid for Eriksson.

Thankfully we have learned from the Carroll episode and wont go mad like that again.

Althiugh liverpool are favourites to sign him, according to press at least. I think most of topm6 would be interested at 20m. It makes no sense to sell him before wc as prices are likely to rise. We aren't in desperate need of cash either. Would be more surprised if deal was announced before wc than after.

 

[Papas1982]

Barkley is just 20, and is the best prospect I have seen for years. Two footed, great strength, and pace. If I was going to buy an English midfielder for 20 million plus he would be the one. Hopefully he has the desire of a Gerrard to go with all the natural talents.

Im not doubting his talent, but his end product isn't there yet. Liverpool are in a place where they require proven and he's not yet. Barkley will cost more like 35-40m. Simply for his age.

 

[Pin-seeker]

We wont pay £35mil for Lallana - he isnt worth it - regardless of what happens in the World Cup - have a sneaky feeling the deal will be sorted before the WC behind the scenes. Been told two deals are done for a couple players from abroad. Two young hotshot players.

And believe we didnt make a bid for Eriksson.

Thankfully we have learned from the Carroll episode and wont go mad like that again.

No offence mate but you have no idea what Liverpool will pay,you're just a fan talking football on a forum like the rest of us. Let's be honest every time a club signs a young player they hope they'll be a hot shot.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Barkley is a wonderful talent - is involved in everything good for the bitters - reminds of watching Gazza when he first burst onto the scene. His balance is wonderful and he may not play the final ball to get the "stats" but he is involved constantly.

Wont cost 35m etc again - 25mil would prob get him. Would take him to replace Gerrard right now - the talent is undoubted,

 

[Pin-seeker]

Barkley is just 20, and is the best prospect I have seen for years. Two footed, great strength, and pace. If I was going to buy an English midfielder for 20 million plus he would be the one. Hopefully he has the desire of a Gerrard to go with all the natural talents.

I'd like to see him have at least one more season at Everton to progress. Looks a quality player.

 

[Papas1982]

Barkley is a wonderful talent - is involved in everything good for the bitters - reminds of watching Gazza when he first burst onto the scene. His balance is wonderful and he may not play the final ball to get the "stats" but he is involved constantly.

Wont cost 35m etc again - 25mil would prob get him. Would take him to replace Gerrard right now - the talent is undoubted,

25m? Not a chance, rumours of UTD city and Chelsea circling will push his price north of 30m easily! I'd like to see him stay and everton move on, but money talks.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

No offence mate but you have no idea what Liverpool will pay,you're just a fan talking football on a forum like the rest of us. Let's be honest every time a club signs a young player they hope they'll be a hot shot.

The club back last summer stated they wont pay silly prices again like they did with Carroll - so whilst im a fan talking football its also the same party line from the club. The club are working towards self sufficent - we will prob look to spend around £50 to £60mil and get about £20mil plus back into the club. That will prob be spread across about 4 players ( just like in recent years since BR arrived )