Sports persons taking the knee
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No worries Phil, apologies, but with it being such a serious subject I believe we should try and stick to facts rather than Urban Myths, these stories have a danger of being spread and people believing them.
Sweep
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As you can see, I already have. But some can’t let it go it seems.
2blue
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Your right Paul...... such attitudes/misinformation, have to be challenged wherever & whenever they arise.... well done.
Sweep
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Just to be clear, the attitude and misinformation that was being challenged was about Sky Sports scheduling. Not racism.Your right Paul...... such attitudes/misinformation, have to be challenged wherever & whenever they arise.... well done.
PhilTheFragger
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Enough already
bluewolf
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On a (very) slightly humorous note, with sections of the population objecting to violent protests and then objecting to peaceful protests, the only thing left is musical protests.
Fade and Die
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You know that just might work!......
And why can’t all sorts live together in peace & harmony ffs ?
Like this :-
Fade and Die
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This is just I joke btw before anyone starts. ?
SocketRocket
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Des O'Connors audiences made it an art form.
sunshine
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Seriously - stop being an idiot! Paul made a very valid point.
Incidentally, I thought Sky handled Millwall v QPR very well. They could have brushed it under the carpet or switched to cover a different game, but they addressed the issues head on in a very balanced manner. After a fair discussion, they drew a line under it and switched focus to the football. Well done Sky. And well done Caroline Barker, who I've found an excellent presenter this year.
sunshine
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People complain about International Women's Day. Why isn't there a men's day*? It's not fair! And women respond that the other 364 days a year are men's days.
Subconsciously, your culture is enjoyed every day. Sometimes, minority cultures and events need a little push into the wider limelight..
(*although there is now an International Men's Day, but this is a recent invention)
PhilTheFragger
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SteveJay
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Err...isn't Sky Sports a sports channel, so should they not be focussing on the football all the time?
2blue
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You've only got to look back to the D'Olivera affair in the 1960's to see how important Sport is in addressing people's warped attitudes.Err...isn't Sky Sports a sports channel, so should they not be focussing on the football all the time?
HampshireHog
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I object to it being on my birthday, what are chances of that must be a billion to one???
Sweep
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An interesting interpretation of forum rules.
Sweep
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I stopped posting. I was never an idiot.
Sweep
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I was going to ignore this insulting post but actually why should I?
IF you had bothered to read my original post you would have seen that my main concerns were based around the effectiveness of taking the knee in achieving equality. Now, I know that you may not agree. That’s fine. Your prerogative. The more sensible on here understand that people have differing opinions and that creates discussion which is what forums are all about. Now of course this is an emotive subject. I wasn’t surprised in the slightest when those - who wrongly believe those who don’t agree with footballers taking the knee must be racist - tried to pick a hole in my post. The hole that was picked was my thought that Sky may have had an ulterior motive for showing the QPR Millwall game. I was wrong. They didn’t. I acknowledged it. I believed it was a trivial point in a serious discussion. I formed this belief because of what I see as completely over the top indulgence by Sky on this subject. At this point what we were discussing was Sky Sports scheduling. Another forumer posted that it was right to challenge such misinformation and attitudes. So he was either referring to Sky schedules or he was insinuating I have racist attitudes. As this poster has no knowledge of me or my background I hoped he was referring to Sky schedules but let’s be honest, he was most likely actually making wild, wholly inaccurate and serious accusations. The post you replied to was me making it clear we were talking about schedules. You are actually calling me an idiot for making it clear I am not a racist.
And herein lies a problem. Because people who shout “racist” every time someone says something they don’t 100% agree with actually often perpetuate the problem. They actually get in the way of finding the best, most incisive way of making it clear racism is not acceptable in football or anywhere in society. It stifles the debate that will get us where we need to be. People are scared to suggest anything that deviates from the script for fear of being called a racist. I nearly fell for it myself when I read your reply. I thought I had better not post, it will lead to more trouble, I wasn’t even going to defend myself.
Where we differ is that you believe this gesture in football is working. I don’t. You think that it’s good Sky are pushing it. I think they go too far. That’s it. That doesn’t make me a racist any more than it makes you the man in the moon. And expressing my opinion does not make me an idiot.
sunshine
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Err...isn't Sky Sports a sports channel, so should they not be focussing on the football all the time?
No, definitely not. That's a very blinkered view that shows a staggering lack of awareness.
It is a sports channel, but sport has been central in many cultural and political movements down the years. Amazing moments but also tragedies. During the Hillsborough disaster, do you think MOTD should have focused on the football only and ignored the disaster occurring in the stands?
The broadcaster has a duty to address the wider context of what is going on.
