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Sports persons taking the knee

Things that are repeated indefinitely lose their impact after a while, however worthy the initial cause. It may be that with crowds in the ground that there is a continued point to the taking the knee before the game, but I would guess that for most viewing, it is a final chance to have a pee before kick off.
 
2blue said:
That choosing not to do so is likely to reflect badly, since its been adopted throughout the world of sport to send a message against racism.
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Reflect badly to who? Idiot journalists? Why isn't Cortney Lawes getting the same berating by the media?

Jonathan Isaac didn't kneel or wear a t shirt. The first question he was asked by a journalist (who was white). "Do you not believe black lives matter?". Jesus Christ.

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DanFST said:
Reflect badly to who? Idiot journalists? Why isn't Cortney Lawes getting the same berating by the media?

Jonathan Isaac didn't kneel or wear a t shirt. The first question he was asked by a journalist (who was white). "Do you not believe black lives matter?". Jesus Christ.

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Johnson’s statement:
"I believe that Black Lives Matter. A lot went into my decision, and part of it is, I thought that kneeling or wearing the Black Lives Matter t-shirt doesn't go hand-in-hand with supporting Black lives. So I felt like, just me personally, what is that I believe is taking on a stance that, I do believe that Black lives matter, but I just felt like it was a decision that I had to make, and I didn't feel like putting that shirt on and kneeling went hand in hand with supporting Black lives. I believe that for myself, my life has been supported by gospel, Jesus Christ, and everyone is made in the image of God and that we all forge through God's glory.
Each and every one of us do things that we shouldn't do and say things that we shouldn't say. We hate and dislike things that we shouldn't hate and dislike, and sometimes it gets to a point where we point fingers, whose evil is worse, and sometimes it comes down to whose evil is most visible. So I felt like I wanted to take a stand on, we all make mistakes, but I think that the gospel of Jesus Christ is that there's grace for us, and that Jesus came and died for our sins and that if we all come to an understanding of that and that God wants to have a relationship with us, that we can get kept all of the things in our world that our messed up, jacked up.
I think when you look around, racism isn't the only thing that plagues our society, that plagues our nation, that plagues our world, and I think coming together on that message that we want to get past not only racism but everything that plagues as us as a society, I feel like the answer to that is gospel."

The US Sportsmen also do it when the American National anthem is being played, that is part of the protest, our Sportsmen are not protesting, they are showing support for anti-racism and anti-discrimination message across society
 
pauldj42 said:
Johnson’s statement:
"I believe that Black Lives Matter. A lot went into my decision, and part of it is, I thought that kneeling or wearing the Black Lives Matter t-shirt doesn't go hand-in-hand with supporting Black lives. So I felt like, just me personally, what is that I believe is taking on a stance that, I do believe that Black lives matter, but I just felt like it was a decision that I had to make, and I didn't feel like putting that shirt on and kneeling went hand in hand with supporting Black lives. I believe that for myself, my life has been supported by gospel, Jesus Christ, and everyone is made in the image of God and that we all forge through God's glory.
Each and every one of us do things that we shouldn't do and say things that we shouldn't say. We hate and dislike things that we shouldn't hate and dislike, and sometimes it gets to a point where we point fingers, whose evil is worse, and sometimes it comes down to whose evil is most visible. So I felt like I wanted to take a stand on, we all make mistakes, but I think that the gospel of Jesus Christ is that there's grace for us, and that Jesus came and died for our sins and that if we all come to an understanding of that and that God wants to have a relationship with us, that we can get kept all of the things in our world that our messed up, jacked up.
I think when you look around, racism isn't the only thing that plagues our society, that plagues our nation, that plagues our world, and I think coming together on that message that we want to get past not only racism but everything that plagues as us as a society, I feel like the answer to that is gospel."

The US Sportsmen also do it when the American National anthem is being played, that is part of the protest, our Sportsmen are not protesting, they are showing support for anti-racism and anti-discrimination message across society
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Man cites the biggest driver of hate in the world as the way to end hate in the world. Utter baffling.
 
rudebhoy said:
Have rugby players been taking the knee in club fixtures? This is not a leading question, I genuinely don't know.
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From memory ALL the Northampton Saints players chose not to last year (haven't seen any of their games this season) but instead opted to stand wearing black rugby against racism t-shirt.

I would imagine across the English Premiership some players will take the knee, some won't.
 
drive4show said:
So it's become herd mentality. He did it so I'm doing it.
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That’s the only reason the Scottish players knelt apparently, there had been no pre match discussion/decision about taking the knee from either side, Rugby has the one minute silence against Racism and it’s up to each individual to choose how they show it.
Afterwards one of the Scottish players said he had seen some of the England players do it, got confused and followed suit, then the other 3 followed him.

Good they have the minutes silence and Rugby as a whole have supported the initiative, but left the taking the knee down to the individual.
 
2blue said:
That choosing not to do so is likely to reflect badly, since its been adopted throughout the world of sport to send a message against racism.
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But isn't forcing people to do this as bad? People either want to do it, or are willing to not do it, and potentially take the flack, or explain why. Forcing people to do something they don't want to do is just wrong. Either the cause is just, and every one will want to make the gesture, or it's not what you think it is. In my view, this gesture is flawed.
 
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