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Sports persons taking the knee

PhilTheFragger said:
Thread tidied up
Comments that infer that people who do not take the knee are therefore racist are not helpful and factually incorrect
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Hmm. Outrageous statement. You must be one of those snowdrops I’ve heard so much about around here. ?‍♂️?
 
PNWokingham said:
it is also intrinsically part of the marxist BLM movement and i would want no part in that. And that is nothing to do with racism
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Look, look!!!..... some other folk joining in that Marxist stuff....... hahaha
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PNWokingham said:
we don't need right or left wing. Racism is racism and it does not have a political side - just idiots. Time to take politics out of it
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Agreed, but you then you say you won't support BLM as you consider it Marxist? First of all, I'd say it isn't (but that's opinion) and even if there are Marxist elements in it, that doesn't make it Marxist.
 
Robster59 said:
Agreed, but you then you say you won't support BLM as you consider it Marxist? First of all, I'd say it isn't (but that's opinion) and even if there are Marxist elements in it, that doesn't make it Marxist.
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Two of the founders of the BLM movement identify as being well versed in Marxism which has been widely exaggerated to mean BLM is a Marxist movement.

A worse problem is that people have no idea what Marxism or communism are and use them as insults for any societal system they don’t agree with.
 
2blue said:
Will have to post here as being censored on 6 Nations thread. I wonder if they'll learn a lesson by the next matches?
https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/scotland-and-england-rugby-players-criticised-refused-take-knee-263392
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I’m surprised you haven’t mentioned the lack of the taking the knee before the Americas Cup races ? Even more so when considering your attitude to rugby players not doing it and how much you appear to enjoy sailing. Maybe it’s something to do with the perceived image of the sport of sailing - the domain of the white upper class
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Flower ?

Seems you Misunderstood-

You are very critical of sporting teams etc not taking the knee - yet appear to be avoiding the issue when it comes to a sport you are very much interested in ? It appears to be double standards
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It’s true. You can’t even open the Sky Sports app without reading yet another story about a sailor being racially abused on Instagram after a poor performance with the old mainsail.
 
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....decide-to-stop-taking-the-knee-before-matches

Brentford have decided to stop taking the knee

And this is what Zaha said about it

Crystal Palace forward Wilfried Zaha this week described kneeling before games as “degrading”. Speaking to the On The Judy podcast, Zaha said: “The whole kneeling down - why must I kneel down for you to show that we matter? Why must I even wear Black Lives Matter on the back of my top to show you that we matter? This is all degrading stuff.”
 
Liverpoolphil said:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....decide-to-stop-taking-the-knee-before-matches

Brentford have decided to stop taking the knee

And this is what Zaha said about it

Crystal Palace forward Wilfried Zaha this week described kneeling before games as “degrading”. Speaking to the On The Judy podcast, Zaha said: “The whole kneeling down - why must I kneel down for you to show that we matter? Why must I even wear Black Lives Matter on the back of my top to show you that we matter? This is all degrading stuff.”
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Thought we should add a bit more of what Zaha said to provide context, rather than selectively choosing one paragraph.

"When people constantly want to get me to do Black Lives Matter talks and racial talks and I'm like, I'm not doing it just so you can put 'Zaha spoke for us'. Like a tick box, basically.

"I'm not doing any more, because unless things change. I'm not coming to chat to you just for the sake of it, like all the interviews I've done.
"All these platforms - you see what's happening, you see people making fake accounts to abuse black people constantly, but you don't change it.
"So don't tell me to come and chat about stuff that's not going to change. Change it.
"All that stuff that you lot are doing, all these charades mean nothing."

He’s having a dig at the system and the virtue signalling of the PL and Football authorities, he’s not against “taking the knee”

Complete article here:
https://www.sportbible.com/football...ing-blm-shirts-is-degrading-20210212.amp.html
 
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