richart
Major Champion
I do think that some sportsman do forget they are on camera. Mike Atherton, and the dirt in his pocket spring to mind.
Simon Dyson hearing
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I do think that some sportsman do forget they are on camera. Mike Atherton, and the dirt in his pocket spring to mind.
Yes they d because they get in a zone - the same zone that might make them make a mistake
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
At the end of the day, regardless of our own, personal opinions, the European Tour decided he was not guilty of cheating - that much is said in the ruling and is backed up by the fact that his ban wouldn't be suspended if they thought he did cheat.
Everyone agree on that..?
Good....
Anyone calling him a Cheat anywhere, on here, on TV, in the papers or wherever is opening themselves up to a lawsuit and had better have some proof to back up their potentially libelous or slanderous comments..The ET held an inquiry and decreed that SD is NOT a Cheat - should be the end of it unless SD gets the Lawyers onto the likes of Roe, Pugh and the Mail.
Everyone agree on that..?
Good....
Anyone calling him a Cheat anywhere, on here, on TV, in the papers or wherever is opening themselves up to a lawsuit and had better have some proof to back up their potentially libelous or slanderous comments..The ET held an inquiry and decreed that SD is NOT a Cheat - should be the end of it unless SD gets the Lawyers onto the likes of Roe, Pugh and the Mail.
richart
Major Champion
I read that the ET adjudged that he deliberately tapped down a spike mark on the line of his putt, in the full knowledge he was breaking Rule 16-1a of the rules of golf, with the purpose of improving his position on the green.:mmm:
Interesting wording for someone that is not a cheat.:mmm: Seems to rule out a brain fart whatever that is.
Interesting wording for someone that is not a cheat.:mmm: Seems to rule out a brain fart whatever that is.
Hickory_Hacker
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Add me to that list ... I was watching it when he cheated and everything that wouldn't break my flat screen got chucked at it. My feelings got worse when he failed to report his balls up, I hope he gets it tight.
Robobum
Money List Winner
I think the choice of words explains why this hearing took so long to be formed and why a top sports barrister was engaged to oversee.
An exercise in how to call somebody a name without ever using that name
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Hickory_Hacker
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lol ... You've lost me there Geezer but yeah I'm being serious.
SocketRocket
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To me the whole thing is simple to reconcile: There are many things in the rules of golf that carry penalties, if you break one of these rules then you receive the appropriate penalty and thats the end of it. There are other things not clearly defined in the rules that if carried out in a manner to give an unfair advantage would be considered as not just breaking rules but 'cheating' I hate to even use the word! These things would be the likes of 'dropping another ball down your trouser leg', 'kicking a ball out from behind a tree', 'improving the lie of your ball by pressing your foot down behind it' etc.
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It's the use of the word "cheated"
Did you think the same with any other player who has broken a rule whilst you watched. ?
Hickory_Hacker
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You forgot to add ... and to press down spike marks on your line. :thup:
I don't know what that Imurg guy is getting his kickers in a twist about, you can't get more blatant.
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So you think it's that blatent so why didn't the find him guilty of cheating then ?
HawkeyeMS
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:thup:
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Believe me, my "kickers" are perfectly straight.
Branding someone a cheat has far reaching consequences.
The European Tour stopped short of branding Dyson a cheat - that is clearly indicated in the ruling.
What part of that don't you understand..?
Our opinions are just that - opinions.
If the Tour felt that SD had cheated wouldn't they have said that clearly in the ruling..?
Have they called him a Cheat..?
I think you'll find that they haven't.
And branding someone a cheat can lead to legal action - tell me I'm wrong.
Hickory_Hacker
Q-School Graduate
The only other one that I watched was Tiger when he took that drop after hitting a tee shot ... Geesus he was miles away from where he should've been and yep, that was cheating. The Tours should issue that guy with a compass and a Geography lesson, I'm guessing that he can draw straight lines.
What do you call cheating in Liverpool? Up here cheating's cheating and there's not one golfer amongst us that thinks they should get away with it, or is there?
Hickory_Hacker
Q-School Graduate
How can it be wrong to brand a cheat a cheat? Dyson has got away with murder (just an expression) ... Are you a Lawyer? Got inside info? Been close to someone that cheats? I'm reading your opinion and others that's all and it was knicker's, my error lol
It all needs to stop ... Both Tours should be telling these guys that they adhere to the RANDA Book or their @ss is on the line.
Robobum
Money List Winner
If I (or anyone else) view that footage and conclude that it looks as though he has cheated and share that view anywhere, I'd be shocked if legal action could stick.
HawkeyeMS
Ryder Cup Winner
If Tiger cheated, which means he deliberately and knowingly broke a rule, why would he admit it in an interview?
EDIT: I see I got the situation you were talking about mixed up, you're talking about the one where his FC told him where he thought he should drop
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Get away with what. ?
No one has got anyway with anything
People make mistakes on a golf course - incorrect drops etc but it's not "cheating"
Unless you haven't ever made a mistake on a golf course and broken a rule
HawkeyeMS
Ryder Cup Winner
So is Rory a cheat for brushing sand from the fringe?
