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Simon Dyson hearing

Robobum said:
If I (or anyone else) view that footage and conclude that it looks as though he has cheated and share that view anywhere, I'd be shocked if legal action could stick.
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Spot on ... There is a rule and he broke it. He's a professional sportsman and he'd be lying through the gaps in his teeth if he didn't realise what he did was wrong. Shocking result for golf today, it's a sham.
 
Hickory_Hacker said:
How can it be wrong to brand a cheat a cheat? Dyson has got away with murder (just an expression) ... Are you a Lawyer? Got inside info? Been close to someone that cheats? I'm reading your opinion and others that's all and it was knicker's, my error lol

It all needs to stop ... Both Tours should be telling these guys that they adhere to the RANDA Book or their @ss is on the line.
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It's never wrong to brand a cheat a cheat, but branding a non-cheat a cheat is very very different
 
Robobum said:
If I (or anyone else) view that footage and conclude that it looks as though he has cheated and share that view anywhere, I'd be shocked if legal action could stick.
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Granted
From the footage it's not good

But if he was deliberately,willfully and in a premeditated way "cheated", why didn't the Tour say so?
They went out of their way to state that Dyson had categorically not cheated.
And these are the people who have all the evidence in front of them....

There's nothing else to say really......
 
HawkeyeMS said:
So is Rory a cheat for brushing sand from the fringe?
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I've only just read about this one on here, I've no idea what happened. Hey apart from all that I don't give a hoot, Dyson lost his street cred instantly and as for Woods, I'm baffled as to how he got away with that one. Maybe it's his persona but I tell you what ... He wouldn't have a hope in hells chance trying to pull that one on my mates.
 
Hickory_Hacker said:
I've only just read about this one on here, I've no idea what happened. Hey apart from all that I don't give a hoot, Dyson lost his street cred instantly and as for Woods, I'm baffled as to how he got away with that one. Maybe it's his persona but I tell you what ... He wouldn't have a hope in hells chance trying to pull that one on my mates.
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Well it's just as well Tiger doesn't play with you mates then :rolleyes:
 
Imurg said:
Granted
From the footage it's not good

But if he was deliberately,willfully and in a premeditated way "cheated", why didn't the Tour say so?
They went out of their way to state that Dyson had categorically not cheated.
And these are the people who have all the evidence in front of them....

There's nothing else to say really......
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I am sure if they had he would have sued, and the ET wouldn't want that. Hence the wording, which covers all bases. I think his fellow Pro's will be watching him like a hawk from now on.

I do find it strange that so many people seem to be happy to go with the ET wording, rather than actually form an opinion on what they actually see on the video. They can not call him a 'cheat', but they can say he deliberately tapped down a spike mark in the full knowledge he was breaking Rule 16-1 a, with the purpose of improving his position on the green.:mmm: That sounds like ........
 
HawkeyeMS said:
Well it's just as well Tiger doesn't play with you mates then :rolleyes:
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lol ... He'd be made welcome but he'd get shown a Rule Book.

Seriously ... These guys are all on thin ice. Golf is a multi billion pound sport and someone somewhere is going to suffer, it was an easy option using Dyson and they've bottled it.

The question is ... Who's next, who's it going to be?
 
richart said:
I am sure if they had he would have sued, and the ET wouldn't want that. Hence the wording, which covers all bases. I think his fellow Pro's will be watching him like a hawk from now on.

I do find it strange that so many people seem to be happy to go with the ET wording, rather than actually form an opinion on what they actually see on the video. They can not call him a 'cheat', but they can say he deliberately tapped down a spike mark in the full knowledge he was breaking Rule 16-1 a, with the purpose of improving his position on the green.:mmm: That sounds like ........
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Give that guy a coconut :whoo:
 
richart said:
I read that the ET adjudged that he deliberately tapped down a spike mark on the line of his putt, in the full knowledge he was breaking Rule 16-1a of the rules of golf, with the purpose of improving his position on the green.:mmm:

Interesting wording for someone that is not a cheat.:mmm: Seems to rule out a brain fart whatever that is.
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Sounds like the ET were calling him a cheat but gave themselves enough wriggle room to deny they were doing so if SD takes it further. Superbly worded by the ET's barrister.

I've followed this thread, and the whole episode, but have refrained from posting.

A young Hobbit officiated in a couple of top Yorkshire amatuer comps many years ago... SD having a word with the committee... now there's a shock...
 
richart said:
I am sure if they had he would have sued, and the ET wouldn't want that. Hence the wording, which covers all bases. I think his fellow Pro's will be watching him like a hawk from now on.

I do find it strange that so many people seem to be happy to go with the ET wording, rather than actually form an opinion on what they actually see on the video. They can not call him a 'cheat', but they can say he deliberately tapped down a spike mark in the full knowledge he was breaking Rule 16-1 a, with the purpose of improving his position on the green.:mmm: That sounds like ........
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Couldn't agree more...
Tiger deliberately dropped in the wrong place in full knowledge of dropping procedure with the purpose of improving his chances of getting close to the flag ...that sound like...- same meat different gravy in my book..
 
richart said:
I am sure if they had he would have sued, and the ET wouldn't want that. Hence the wording, which covers all bases. I think his fellow Pro's will be watching him like a hawk from now on.

I do find it strange that so many people seem to be happy to go with the ET wording, rather than actually form an opinion on what they actually see on the video. They can not call him a 'cheat', but they can say he deliberately tapped down a spike mark in the full knowledge he was breaking Rule 16-1 a, with the purpose of improving his position on the green.:mmm: That sounds like ........
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I formed my own opinion the moment it was bought to our attention. He made a mistake is my view - why is that so strange?
 
Imurg said:
Couldn't agree more...
Tiger deliberately dropped in the wrong place in full knowledge of dropping procedure with the purpose of improving his chances of getting close to the flag ...that sound like...- same meat different gravy in my book..
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Yes, but at the time he dropped the ball did he know he was breaking the rule. Remember it was a slightly strange sequence of events. Ball carried the water, then went back in off the flag. He couldn't drop at nearest point of relief, so went back to where he played original shot from. If he was knowingly breaking the rule would he admit it in an interview after the round ? As we all know that should have got him dq'd. Not a Tiger fan, but think it was a genuine mistake, and one I would probably have made.:eek:
 
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