S'ford vs Medal

It was called cheating earlier - I have no idea when I last had an 11 but have had a 8 and won a competition - should people win medals having 7's and 6's with a 20 odd HC taken off at the end whilst they beat someone with 4's and 3's on their cars ? Your HC is calculated by the stableford score. You will still find the same that do well in medals do well in Stablefords

If you want to suggest real and proper golf then don't pick and choose - remove HC and its scratch not just medal.

One of the good things about golf is the ability to compete using a handicap system. Only a few can win a scratch, and you are not one of them either. But, stableford rewards very inconsistent golf. There is no reward for finishing the round, playing the percentages, being steady, scoring the best you can score. It rewards going for every thing, gung Ho, whacking it round without a care in the world.

How many pro tournaments reflect this? Ok, they are scratch, but if stableford was relevant, all pro tournaments would be scratch stableford, and Kevin Na would have picked up long before his 17 on one hole, that scuppered his chances of getting in the serious money.
 
I can enjoy both formats and at our club both formats get a similar number of entries.
Apart from midweeks I'd guess we have about 4 Stableford and the rest medal play.

And I disagree that Stableford is usually won by high handicap hackers, looking at the winners of last years weekend Stableford Comps we had handicaps of:
20, 17, 2 & 6
And for the midweek Stableford winners:
3, 18 and 23

So almost half were won by single figures and two of those were Cat 1, taking into account the number of Cat 1 players at my place (just nine) that suggests that Stableford is a Cat 1's charter. :eek::mmm:
 
Unless I have a putt for a point, when I don't have to worry about the one coming back, I don't change my strategy that much for Stablefords. I try to stay on the short stuff and out of trouble in either format.
 
One of the good things about golf is the ability to compete using a handicap system. Only a few can win a scratch, and you are not one of them either. But, stableford rewards very inconsistent golf. There is no reward for finishing the round, playing the percentages, being steady, scoring the best you can score. It rewards going for every thing, gung Ho, whacking it round without a care in the world.

How many pro tournaments reflect this? Ok, they are scratch, but if stableford was relevant, all pro tournaments would be scratch stableford, and Kevin Na would have picked up long before his 17 on one hole, that scuppered his chances of getting in the serious money.

Cheers for letting me know that I won't win scratch comps - that saves me the effort of trying now

If you want to use pro tournaments to back up your argument then forget HC then and scratch only - or are you ok with someone hacking it round in 90 odd but still wins whilst 80% of the field score better ?

It's very rare at our place that someone wins after blobbing one hole - the winners complete the round in fact everyone does.

It is great that the HC system is around - the same HC system based on stableford scores.
 
I can enjoy both formats and at our club both formats get a similar number of entries.
Apart from midweeks I'd guess we have about 4 Stableford and the rest medal play.

And I disagree that Stableford is usually won by high handicap hackers, looking at the winners of last years weekend Stableford Comps we had handicaps of:
20, 17, 2 & 6
And for the midweek Stableford winners:
3, 18 and 23

So almost half were won by single figures and two of those were Cat 1, taking into account the number of Cat 1 players at my place (just nine) that suggests that Stableford is a Cat 1's charter. :eek::mmm:

Our last stableford won by a guy off 1 with 40 points
 
Stableford is a bit of both IMO...
A steady single figure player will rarely "blob" so score on all holes
A higher handicapper may well have 2 or 3 blobs but get 2 or 3 pars to compensate.
Stableford often doesn't reward good play.
Take last Friday...a 125 yard par 3
My 9 iron finishes pin high 15 feet left
Fragger's shot finishes short right in the rough.
His chip Pings through by 15 feet
My birdie putt brushes the hole and leaves a tap in
He 2 putts for bogey but we walk off with the same points.
No complaint, just an observation.
In Medal it would, effectively, be the same, it would only be a difference in scratch mode.

Golf is Golf is Golf.
It's all about getting the ball in the hole regardless of how you interpret the scoring.
One is no better than the other or more meaningful - it's a mind set...

I go to play Golf, not Medal or Stableford or whatever..
 
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