Sexuality In Sport

[Fader]

Well I read just recently that, with most blokes when meeting or seeing a woman, the first thing that comes to mind is how good sex would be - are we not very shallow chaps - if it is true. I don't know whether the same applies for gay guys - ooh.

If thats true then I need help, because the first thing I think when I meet some one is far removed from sex it's not even in my thought process at all.

 

[londonlewis]

Whilst I agree that it shouldn't make a difference. I still think it will be awkward. I bet there are currently lots of nfl stars sayings it's great for the game, whilst secretly hoping he's not in their draft. As an aside, if sharing a locker room with someone's who's orientation is to find your sex be that gay or lesbian is ok. Why are all locker rooms split male/female? Surely if in today's day and age, men woman are expected to share lockers with men woman that could I theory find them attractive, why can't they share the same lockers?

Communal changing rooms would make a lot of people feel uncomfortable. They have them in Europe and that seems to work ok. But I can't see many people in the UK wanting to use them. If there is no demand, why create a supply?

 

[londonlewis]

I don't think it's homophobic to not want to share a locker room. Woman don't want men in their locker room as they would fill uncomfortable, do to feeling like sexual objects. So do we change the rules and have it so that men can share lockers with ugly women, as they won't be found attractive so no need to worry?

I can't profess to being an expert as to why women don't want men in their locker rooms but I imagine it is a bigger question over privacy and not because they don't want to be objectified.
Not entirely sure if I see the sense in the rest of your response.

 

[londonlewis]

Personally I don't have a problem sharing a locker room with any one.
I'm pretty sure if I was in a locker room with attractive women they'd find it a bit strange when they catch me staring.

the point I was making here was in relation to the orignal issue around men sharing changing areas with gay men.
Not to do with men sharing changing rooms with women.

 

[Papas1982]

Communal changing rooms would make a lot of people feel uncomfortable. They have them in Europe and that seems to work ok. But I can't see many people in the UK wanting to use them. If there is no demand, why create a supply?

IMO there aren't any as people f the opposite sex would feel awkward due to the sexual element that shared rooms could bring. This would be down to attraction and awkwardness due to it. So surely, homosexual men or women could bring that element into same sex rooms? I'm not saying that I believe gay people should be sent away to private rooms. I just believe that advocating seperate rooms doesn't make people homophobic.

 

[Papas1982]

the point I was making here was in relation to the orignal issue around men sharing changing areas with gay men.
Not to do with men sharing changing rooms with women.

But I would argue that if men have a hang up with sharing rooms with homosexual men or women it would be because of a sexual element. The same element that is behind single sex lockers in the first place.

 

[londonlewis]

IMO there aren't any as people f the opposite sex would feel awkward due to the sexual element that shared rooms could bring. This would be down to attraction and awkwardness due to it. So surely, homosexual men or women could bring that element into same sex rooms? I'm not saying that I believe gay people should be sent away to private rooms. I just believe that advocating seperate rooms doesn't make people homophobic.

it sounds far too much like segregation to me.
what if a gay man / woman doesn't want to have to use a separate changing room?

I can't help but think that a lot of opinions in this forum is that gay people are some sort of sexual fiend who gets aroused any time they are near a naked person of the same gender. I'm pretty sure this opinion has been created by some very poor anti-gay propaganda.

 

[FairwayDodger]

I can't profess to being an expert as to why women don't want men in their locker rooms but I imagine it is a bigger question over privacy and not because they don't want to be objectified.

Men are smelly.....

 

[Papas1982]

it sounds far too much like segregation to me.
what if a gay man / woman doesn't want to have to use a separate changing room?

I can't help but think that a lot of opinions in this forum is that gay people are some sort of sexual fiend who gets aroused any time they are near a naked person of the same gender. I'm pretty sure this opinion has been created by some very poor anti-gay propaganda.

Thats a but far fetched, I've not heard anyone of hear even remotely criticise or condemn homosexuality. And obviously there are many gay people that get changed in lockers as they are. I just think it's very harsh for people to be called homophobic if they admit to feeling a by awkward re the situation.

 

[Fader]

Men are smelly.....

This is true:ears:

However as for the point of segregation why should a gay man/woman ave seperate facilities to a straight one.. They are not ill, its not lepracy and you really can't catch being gay!

The segregation idea is so archaic its unreal. I gaurantee whenever you've used a communal dressing room at somepoint theres been a gay guy in there and he has paid you no attention whatsoever and you likewise didn't notice his state of undress. So whats the difference in being in a changing facility with someone thats gay and not knowing so just going about your business, and being in the same situation with the same person but knowing they're gay. Which means you would treat someone differently based on their sexual orientation!

They are still a man/woman and entitled to be treated equally as such some of the views i've seen on this here and on the NFL site are shocking

 

[Hacker Khan]

Where do we stand on a straight man getting changed in a gay womens changing room?

 

[Fader]

This is true:ears:

However as for the point of segregation why should a gay man/woman ave seperate facilities to a straight one.. They are ill, its not lepracy and you really can't catch being gay!

The segregation idea is so archaic its unreal. I gaurantee whenever you've used a communal dressing room at somepoint theres been a gay guy in there and he has paid you no attention whatsoever and you likewise didn't notice his state of undress. So whats the difference in being in a changing facility with someone thats gay and not knowing so just going about your business, and being in the same situation with the same person but knowing they're gay. Which means you would treat someone differently based on their sexual orientation!

They are still a man/woman and entitled to be treated equally as such some of the views i've seen on this here and on the NFL site are shocking

That should read not ill... Bloodu mobiles and small keys plus autocorrect doesn't help a healthy debate!

 

[drawboy]

I have never slept with a gay man....I have slept with two that have though.

 

[Ethan]

Where do we stand on a straight man getting changed in a gay womens changing room?

Over by the door, I would think.

 

[Ethan]

That should read not ill... Bloodu mobiles and small keys plus autocorrect doesn't help a healthy debate!

Edited for you. I left the spelling mistakes though. You're on your own there.

 

[User20205]

They are still a man/woman and entitled to be treated equally as such some of the views i've seen on this here and on the NFL site are shocking

too true, to assume there is a blanket attraction is about as enlightened as the Islamic view on women!

 

[Pin-seeker]

Men are smelly.....

Some women aren't too fresh smelling either

 

[User20205]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Olc5C4...top_uri=/watch?v=Olc5C4SXAYM&feature=youtu.be

:thup: