Scottish Open

[BrianM]

Got to say I’m disappointed that the Renaissance Club is hosting the Scottish Open for the next 4 years, nothing against the course, but in my opinion we should be taking it round the Country, we have top drawer courses all around the Country which could do an equally good job.
It’s such a short sighted view by the DP World tour.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Guess it will come down to costs

It becoming one of the biggest comps on the ET and I’m not sure how many other clubs would be in the position for that level of outlay ?

It is a shame though as there are lots of stunning courses that could host it

 

[Lord Tyrion]

When you have so many good courses it is a real shame that it ends up sticking at the same one. I went this year and whilst there are many pluses to it, it is not the greatest viewing course. As LP mentions though, money talks.

 

[CliveW]

Whilst I agree, how many clubs would be prepared to have their course closed for the duration of the competition and the lead up times?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Whilst I agree, how many clubs would be prepared to have their course closed for the duration of the competition and the lead up times?

It's Scotland's national comp, surely there would be a good few, out of the huge number of courses, that would put their hands up for it. Not every year but surely it could bounce around different clubs?

 

[Backache]

Is 4 years too long to hold an event? I seem to think it was a while at Loch Lomond and at Gleneagles.
I remember back in the day when it was at Haggs Castle.

 

[Deleted member 3432]

It's Scotland's national comp, surely there would be a good few, out of the huge number of courses, that would put their hands up for it. Not every year but surely it could bounce around different clubs?

Why would they when they can charge 300 quid a time for green fees?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Why would they when they can charge 300 quid a time for green fees?

If they could say they host the Scottish Open then they could up it to £350 ??

 

[Deleted member 3432]

If they could say they host the Scottish Open then they could up it to £350 ??

Some already do ???

 

[BrianM]

I'm not sure what it comes down to for their criteria.
There would be plenty of clubs willing to host it even for that slight down time I'd imagine, the rewards would be greater in the end.
In my opinion Keith Pelley has made a massive error of judgement on this one.

 

[KenL]

Even though it is only about 5 miles from my house I believe it should move round more.
Dundonald, Royal Aberdeen and plenty others are great venues.
The pros want it on a links course. Renaissance doesn't really seem to be a true links.

 

[BrianM]

Even though it is only about 5 miles from my house I believe it should move round more.
Dundonald, Royal Aberdeen and plenty others are great venues.
The pros want it on a links course. Renaissance doesn't really seem to be a true links.

Couldn't agree more Ken.

 

[Val]

Renaissance is a mix of links and heathland. Nice course but not that good. Shame they won't move it around, tonnes of courses we'll worthy of it.

 

[Slab]

On top of the lost income that would apply to any host course, does anyone know if the Renaissance pay a fee to the ET to host it?

 

[KenL]

On top of the lost income that would apply to any host course, does anyone know if the Renaissance pay a fee to the ET to host it?

I'd have thought the course would receive a fee?

 

[Mel Smooth]

I'd have thought the course would receive a fee?

I'd imagine that's pretty much always the case.

 

[Slab]

I'd have thought the course would receive a fee?

I'd imagine that's pretty much always the case.

Interesting. I didn't think they would. Maybe I haven't thought it all through but I imagined there is a commercial benefit to any host club in marketing itself as a European tour venue (& being able to charge (higher) green fees for several years in line with that 'status' plus there would be an increased demand from visiting tourists & other players wishing to play a course of Tour standard etc)
All in all a bit of an ongoing money spinner that some clubs might take the short term hit on green fees to host it and pay to secure the event for x years

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I'd have thought the course would receive a fee?

I'd imagine that's pretty much always the case.

I've heard rumours both ways. I'd have thought you were right but for a course like this it provides good pr and raises its profile so perhaps it is worth paying to bring the tournament to them?

 

[KenL]

I don't think Renaissance is that fussed for visiting parties.
They try to remain a bit exclusive.
£70k or more to join there!

 

[Mel Smooth]

Little bit of discussion about the Womens Open heading to Muirfield

Interesting. I didn't think they would. Maybe I haven't thought it all through but I imagined there is a commercial benefit to any host club in marketing itself as a European tour venue (& being able to charge (higher) green fees for several years in line with that 'status' plus there would be an increased demand from visiting tourists & other players wishing to play a course of Tour standard etc)
All in all a bit of an ongoing money spinner that some clubs might take the short term hit on green fees to host it and pay to secure the event for x years

I know in the Tucker Carlson interview with GN from Bedminster, that Norman said "we negotiated a venue fee with him" (Trump), which suggests that they paid him to use the venue - of course I could have got that the wrong way round.
I'd imagine all the Trump courses are pretty well regarded without the need for any other exposure, although of course, any international event at any golf course will definitely increase it's popularity.