Perhaps because we want to stop giving you loads of cash with nothing in return apart from thinly veiled anti-English sentiment?
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Scottish independence
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SwingsitlikeHogan
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You may be correct DfT - but snelly simply atriculates what I hear a lot down here - supported by the evidence presented by the Telegraph. Tell you what - 37,000 in my town and locality - multiply by £1600 and that's a lot of extra money coming to the area - circa £56m That's the sort of sums folk do.
I couldnt have been more clear that I don't.........obviously I didnt
Can I also add that I have no interest nor care
SwingsitlikeHogan
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I was thinking this not ten minutes ago when in a trailer for some R5L prog on the referendum included words to the effect
'..the vote that will put the future of the UK at risk'
To me that has a distinct implied negativity about a YES vote.
CheltenhamHacker
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SwingsitlikeHogan
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Thanks for pointing out the piece - will have a read later.
On Saturday in clubhouse a group of guys started discussing the referendum vote with me - with their opening remark to me being a jovial
"the sooner you Scots vote for independence and b****r off the better"
I updated them on the voting franchise and noted that I did not have a vote. They found that somewhat amusing - me not getting a vote. In general their view was indeed that if Scotland wanted to remain part of the UK then the per head grant to Scotland should be the same as that spent per head in England - so £1600/year/head less than current level. As for the BT Campaigns "why change? Stay as we are and we get best of both worlds - the bun and the penny" Not a chance - was their retort.
And over the weekend I read of the shambles the Tories are in 'philosophically' - as in what DO they want or stand for in respect of immigration and Europe. And so on the politics of England, the Tories and Europe - what odds the 2015 election is hung and that with Lib-Dems a busted flush (other than in Scotland) the coalition is Tory-UKIP. And who would bet against that pairing holding a referendum to leave Europe - except I think that's happening anyway - and with 'floods' of Romanians and Bulgarians coming in from next year what chance UK then leaving Europe. All to the good if that's what is best for Scotland and what Scots would want post a NO vote.
So post a NO vote and post the 2015 Gen Election Scotland should I believe not expect 'more of the same' because things they will be a-changing. So let's hear more of those changes from BT and how they'll affect Scotland - we hear plenty from them on the potential changes following a YES vote.
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Old Skier
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Many Scots service personnel are not happy that they have been excluded from the vote. I just look at it as a good way to ditch the pipes and drums
Doon frae Troon
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Big day tomorrow.
The devil will be in the detail.
Will Lord Soapy pull a rabbit out of his top hat and send England and Wales into decades of Tory/UKIP rule.
.......or will it be a damp squib.
The devil will be in the detail.
Will Lord Soapy pull a rabbit out of his top hat and send England and Wales into decades of Tory/UKIP rule.
.......or will it be a damp squib.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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There is a risk that England will head that way whatever Scotland does.
SocketRocket
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SwingsitlikeHogan
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SocketRocket
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So thats the Telegraph and Mail off the shelves. Maybe we will all be better comrades if we kept it to the Guardian, Socialist Worker and Morning Star.
Doon frae Troon
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Good
So you want to leave Europe then?
Doon frae Troon
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Anyone watching Dale Maily in 'The Revolution will be Televised' very funny and like true satire more than a pinch of the truth.
A modern Secret Policeman's Ball.
Now I don't know what made me think of that on this thread....honest!
A modern Secret Policeman's Ball.
Now I don't know what made me think of that on this thread....honest!
Doon frae Troon
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The Herald, Daily Record and the Hootsmon seem to have been left off your list.
You are probably unaware of those Scottish papers.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
A risk there for the BT Campaign to counter - unless that is the residents of Scotland want to get out of Europe as well in which case no risk.
MegaSteve
Tour Winner
Why not?
As an average man on the street I can only see the downsides far outweighing the upsides... And I don't believe I am alone in those thoughts... Doubt though, despite all the promises, I'll actually get to vote on it in my lifetime...
Doon frae Troon
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Historically the Scots have been close allies of many European countries and I think that they would be quite happy to stay in Europe.
Doon frae Troon
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Trident to go
Tax to remain the same.
Pound to stay within Sterling 'band'
30 hours childcare for 3-4 year olds.
Bedroom tax to go.
Seems a bit thin on detail so far.
Good news for Hogan...he can choose to remain a Scots citizen.
Tax to remain the same.
Pound to stay within Sterling 'band'
30 hours childcare for 3-4 year olds.
Bedroom tax to go.
Seems a bit thin on detail so far.
Good news for Hogan...he can choose to remain a Scots citizen.
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