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Scottish Fitba'

And what about the times they didn't get beat and got thru???

I'm not by any means saying everything is perfect or mistakes haven't been made at board level at various points, but I do not accept that Celtic haven't been highly successful over the last 25 years or there are major issues in the boardroom that need to be resolved. The tennis ball chuckers are a bunch of clueless morons IMHO and they can jog on!!

Turning to thinking about who's next, Ange must be the obvious choice as he's available and a known quantity, and at least when he moved on he did it properly.
 
ger147 said:
What problem??

Let's look at it objectively. Celtic have won 19 out of the last 25 league titles and have won 12 Scottish cups and 11 League cups in the same time frame. They have been in a European final and also made it out of the group stages of the Champions league on several occasions. By any objective measure, this is by FAR the most successful period in the history of the club since Jock Stein's time.

What more do you expect??
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Yes, it is difficult to feel sorry for Celtic.
 
ger147 said:
You can't sack the owner, he's not an employee. The clue is in the title...

And he picks the board members, no matter how many tennis balls are thrown.
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Desmond does not own the club. He is the largest shareholder (34%).

It is ridiculous that he is issuing statements on behalf of the club, particularly one as unprofessional as that. Meanwhile silence as usual from the invisible CEO.

For what it’s worth, my guess is that he thinks Rodgers is going to come out with his version of events, no doubt slating the board, and this is DD getting his revenge in first.

And as for MON, he was great 20 odd years ago, but he’s 73 years old ffs, ludicrous appointment.
 
rudebhoy said:
Desmond does not own the club. He is the largest shareholder (34%).

It is ridiculous that he is issuing statements on behalf of the club, particularly one as unprofessional as that. Meanwhile silence as usual from the invisible CEO.

For what it’s worth, my guess is that he thinks Rodgers is going to come out with his version of events, no doubt slating the board, and this is DD getting his revenge in first.

And as for MON, he was great 20 odd years ago, but he’s 73 years old ffs, ludicrous appointment.
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You can argue percentages if you like, but everyone knows who is in control.

I have no problem with his statement. As I said in my first post, I'm sure the truth is somewhere in between. And in case you hadn't noticed, Rodgers has been putting his version of events out for the last few months. In playground parlance, he started it.

As for O'Neill, I made a similar comment in my original post. Surprised they didn't phone Ange, or maybe they did and he's not interested, who knows. I'm sure Brendan will tell us in due course...
 
ger147 said:
You can argue percentages if you like, but everyone knows who is in control.

I have no problem with his statement. As I said in my first post, I'm sure the truth is somewhere in between. And in case you hadn't noticed, Rodgers has been putting his version of events out for the last few months. In playground parlance, he started it.

As for O'Neill, I made a similar comment in my original post. Surprised they didn't phone Ange, or maybe they did and he's not interested, who knows. I'm sure Brendan will tell us in due course...
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I don’t dispute that he is calling the shots, but he does not own the club. The setup is totally wrong, the CEO should be in ultimate charge, but is in effect DD’s puppet.

As for his statement, it’s a pack of lies, designed to blame BR for everything and to pretend the board are doing a great job. Do you honestly believe his statement that BR had total control over transfers? That is transparently nonsense.

Like I said earlier, I’m glad BR has gone, but let’s not pretend the current shambles is all down to him.
 
rudebhoy said:
I don’t dispute that he is calling the shots, but he does not own the club. The setup is totally wrong, the CEO should be in ultimate charge, but is in effect DD’s puppet.

As for his statement, it’s a pack of lies, designed to blame BR for everything and to pretend the board are doing a great job. Do you honestly believe his statement that BR had total control over transfers? That is transparently nonsense.

Like I said earlier, I’m glad BR has gone, but let’s not pretend the current shambles is all down to him.
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He owns more shares in Celtic than anyone else and he controls the club.

I don't equate one poor transfer window to the club being a shambles, and I certainly do NOT believe DD's statement is a pack of lies.

I refer you to my earlier post I.e. 19 league titles out of the last 25, 23 domestic cups in the same period, a European final, several appearances in the final stages of tbe CL etc. No, everything is not perfect but Celtic are not a shambles.

Looking ahead, any thoughts on who could be the next manager?
 
ger147 said:
He owns more shares in Celtic than anyone else and he controls the club.

I don't equate one poor transfer window to the club being a shambles, and I certainly do NOT believe DD's statement is a pack of lies.

I refer you to my earlier post I.e. 19 league titles out of the last 25, 23 domestic cups in the same period, a European final, several appearances in the final stages of tbe CL etc. No, everything is not perfect but Celtic are not a shambles.

Looking ahead, any thoughts on who could be the next manager?
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Seville was 22 years ago. We have went massively backwards since then in terms of the quality of the squad. The mantra of the board / DD has been to do just what we need to be top dog in Scotland, and anything that happens in Europe is a nice wee bonus. Rangers implosion in 2012 has meant we have had to invest less and less to maintain domestic superiority.

The past year has seen a total nosedive. Selling our two best players in Kyogo and Kuhn without replacing them adequately ( or at all in Kyogo’s case), then selling Idah without replacing him, despite BR saying that would not happen.

Anyway, with regards to a permanent replacement for BR, I’d like to think we would go for a young guy who is on an upwards trajectory, but suspect we will follow the pattern of recent years and reappoint who has done the job previously, be that Ange, MON or, god forbid, Lennon. Either that, or Maloney will step up.
 
I think I'd rather have a go myself than let Lennon have a 3rd go, and the last football manager game I played was FM 2012 so I'm about as up to date as Martin O'Neil!! 🤭🤭

Let's hope some fresh blood comes in and can get the team playing some decent football. We both know there won't be wholesale changes in the playing squad come January so it won't be an easy task.
 
I may be totally wrong here but is the transfer set up at Celtic the correct style they need?
I would imagine that a set up similar to someone like Brighton would be a great way to approach it.
Buy in young players that are fairly unknown build them up and sell on for profit to reinvest in the next young players.
Being able to offer champions league football to young players makes them a really attractive club to join and knowing if they do well then a move onto a bigger European club is the next step.
 
Absolutely horrific statement from the board, shows a complete lack of professionalism.
Like others have said, probably released it before Rodgers comes out with his version of events.
 
Martin O' Neill has just spoken and made it very clear he is there as an interim coach only. He is 'warming the seat'. It doesn't sound like a last hurrah, more a favour until a new manager is appointed.

Fair play to Celtic, they have somehow managed to make Rangers fans feel a little bit better about things :ROFLMAO:. The door will probably never be further open for Hearts, or A.N.Otherto break the stranglehold on the league.
 
BrianM said:
Absolutely horrific statement from the board, shows a complete lack of professionalism.
Like others have said, probably released it before Rodgers comes out with his version of events.
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It wasn't the board, they released the standard boilerplate statement 15 minutes before Dermot Desmond lost the plot.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Martin O' Neill has just spoken and made it very clear he is there as an interim coach only. He is 'warming the seat'. It doesn't sound like a last hurrah, more a favour until a new manager is appointed.

Fair play to Celtic, they have somehow managed to make Rangers fans feel a little bit better about things :ROFLMAO:. The door will probably never be further open for Hearts, or A.N.Otherto break the stranglehold on the league.
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This is Heart’s Leicester City moment…
 
rudebhoy said:
I’m glad Rodgers has gone after the last six months of dreadful football, but Desmond’s statement is disgraceful. This is now going to turn into a protracted mudslinging in the media as BR has got to respond publicly. What a mess.
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The 20 Minute Tims podcast lads are in a complete mess over this; utterly bamboozled and dismayed - and notwithstanding any truths there may be in the DD statement, that the statement has aired Celtic dirty washing in public they just don’t get at all.

And as far as appointing MO’N as caretaker…well…they almost p’d themselves laughing at the thought and absurdity of them being at the game against Falkirk tomorrow with MO’N sitting there…
 
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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
The 20 Minute Tims podcast lads are in a complete mess over this; utterly bamboozled and dismayed - and notwithstanding any truths there may be in the DD statement, that the statement has aired Celtic dirty washing in public they just don’t get at all.

And as far as appointing MO’N as caretaker…well…they almost p’d themselves laughing at the thought and absurdity of them being at the game against Falkirk tomorrow with MO’N sitting there…
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Tomorrow night will be toxic. Can see it being “Sack The Board” and “Desmond GTF” for the entire 90 minutes.
 
I feel sorry for any tennis players in west central Scotland this week. No doubt tennis balls will be sold out everywhere ahead of the SF against Rangers at Hampden on Sunday.
 
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