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Rudebhoy.....Strange post?? In what way? Of course you're allowed,indeed welcome to give us your thoughts, insight and dare I say 'one plane solution' but I'm thinking that your assumption that banning this march from Ibrox to George Square would work in what way? How would you handle 10K+ morons? Oh, and don't give me the 'holier than thou ***' You have your own factions -but I have to admire how they are staying low/the long game-and enjoying 'South West Side Story' being served on a plate
Do you seriously think that these (please enter your own expletive) would go "OOps, we're not meant to do that,so we'd better not?- Get real son.
Lock them up? OK-Where? + would'nt be the police you would need, it would be the SAS/SBS with Gurkha backup!
As to banning them from Ibrox-would be interesting to find out how many are season brief holders (which may beg the question of photo-id for future) and how many just came along to join in with trashing us /peoples property/roads/pavements/public areas/fighting the police/assaulting each other(now that bit I don't mind!)
Just spoke to someone connected and the forfeiture of points idea is taking hold in some quarters as one way of re-setting certain perceptions that the lowlifes/knuckledraggers can behave any way they want using our name and colours,BY- and it's a very big BY shaming/ostracising these (again put your own expletive in here), again I'm back to thinking that some would actually revel in the transferred infamy/disgust felt by the rest of us- such is the thought(?) processing ability sadly in use!
I do have a solution,but,Capital Punishment was taken off the statute books many years ago- what about a Russian Gulag or a Chinese re-orientation camp-any thoughts?
Wonder what these folk do for a living-could be some interesting demographics in there?
All this and I need to find a game for The Bellshill Seniors Open with the lovely Williamalex1 in a couple of weeks--wish i was back drinking:devilish::cry:
 

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Oh, and in case you can't work it out?-Yes I'm hurting (big time )

Thanks Billy will give you a bell probably tomorrow as we may have another body wanting to come along? but will know more soon and speak to check if OK!
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Just watched video footage of the mess that Rangers fans made in Glasgow City Centre and their violence against the police. Words that would get me banned barely describe my thoughts - and as usual weak and weaselly words of condemnation come out of Ibrox about the behaviour of a ‘small’ minority. I read that there were an estimated 15,000 involved - and that is a LARGE minority. They are despicable. And the video of Rangers players at a post match party singing their songs of hatred and bigotry ?

I do try and support Rangers when representing Scottish football in Europe...but so often that club and its supporters make that extremely difficult. And of course their supporters will say that they don’t care whether not they have any such support wider than their own - because they and nobody else are the people...oh yes.
 
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Shameful behaviour. Rangers fans appear to have been celebrating every week for about 2 months, it looks utterly small time and embarrassing for a big club to celebrate a title so much. I much prefer the blue side of Glasgow to the green but lighting up buildings in Dubai is actually laughable. The same level as Spurs bringing out a DVD about beating Arsenal 5-1 a few years ago.
 

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Difficult to know how to stop this.
Police playing it canny and 'escorting' the mob whilst taking loads of camera evidence for later prosecutions. [I quite like that softly softly approach]
SFA and League hamstruck as they are not responsible for fans actions outside of the football arena.
Government cannot get involved due to FIFA state interference rules.
Local Authority may be able to act in banning spectators or closing stadium. [how likely is that]
Rangers fans and club seem to think that they are fireproof, that has to stop.
UEFA could lead the way with a ban.......worked pretty well for Liverpool. [can they do that for a domestic league.]
 

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Usual suspect on Facebook defending anything the Rangers' fans did and at one point, comparing their actions to a protest by Palestinian supporters in Glasgow claiming it was all right if they did it too.
 

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[QUOTE="SwingsitlikeHogan, post: 2352480, member: 16449"

I do try and support Rangers when representing Scottish football in Europe...but so often that club and its supporters make that extremely difficult. And of course their supporters will say that they don’t care whether not they have any such support wider than their own - because they and nobody else are the people...oh yes.[/QUOTE]

Are you being deliberately obtuse or just a bit dim/innocent?
How many times does it need to be said..."THESE MORONS ARE NOT repeat NOT FANS!!
They may (in some perverted way ) think they are in that they put on our colours and (ab)use our name to fulfil some 'primeval?' need to prove themselves as real badassess? I really don't know the WHY...do you/anyone?? As for the anti-Catholic bile/hatred? Why? What are they afraid of? Leave the past in the bloody past
The redtops up here are having a field day ...and rightly (even Keith Jackson )-condemning the lack of action from Ibrox-must admit the red mist came down when catching the headline, but, on reading the full article (in the Daily Ranger) he makes some very valid points as to how board/management/players but more especially their 'absolute joke of' PR Dept. could be putting out the specific messages that 'Not in our name / We don't want you/We don't need you/ When you are identified-named YOU'RE BARRED FOR LIFE!!
WTF are they scared of--losing some ticket money and merchandise sales?---GROW A PAIR !!!!
Sermon over!
 

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Shameful behaviour. Rangers fans appear to have been celebrating every week for about 2 months, it looks utterly small time and embarrassing for a big club to celebrate a title so much. I much prefer the blue side of Glasgow to the green but lighting up buildings in Dubai is actually laughable. The same level as Spurs bringing out a DVD about beating Arsenal 5-1 a few years ago.

Well don't forget it is actually their first title ...... they were only formed a few years ago :LOL::ROFLMAO::LOL::ROFLMAO:
 

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Putting aside what the players and staff may or may not have been singing, the drinking, dancing and singing indoors is a flagrant breach of covid regulations facilitated by the club. Surely some action has to be taken about that?
 
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Are you being deliberately obtuse or just a bit dim/innocent?
How many times does it need to be said..."THESE MORONS ARE NOT repeat NOT FANS!!
They may (in some perverted way ) think they are in that they put on our colours and (ab)use our name to fulfil some 'primeval?' need to prove themselves as real badassess? I really don't know the WHY...do you/anyone?? As for the anti-Catholic bile/hatred? Why? What are they afraid of? Leave the past in the bloody past
The redtops up here are having a field day ...and rightly (even Keith Jackson )-condemning the lack of action from Ibrox-must admit the red mist came down when catching the headline, but, on reading the full article (in the Daily Ranger) he makes some very valid points as to how board/management/players but more especially their 'absolute joke of' PR Dept. could be putting out the specific messages that 'Not in our name / We don't want you/We don't need you/ When you are identified-named YOU'RE BARRED FOR LIFE!!
WTF are they scared of--losing some ticket money and merchandise sales?---GROW A PAIR !!!!
Sermon over!
They are associated with a club about which there is much I struggle with. Through their recent behaviour they amplify these things, and so I struggle to give my support to the team that they profess to follow - a team I would actually wish to do well beyond the confines of Scotland.

Why should I wish for anything that gives any satisfaction to such individuals that shame our country. If it were simply a small minority then that would make it easier, but they are many, and whilst the majority might publically express their dismay and rejection of the actions, behaviour and songs - I suspect that for too many, inside, the feeling is not one of utter dismay and abhorrence - but rather an albeit perhaps rather guilty wish that they too could be joining in the celebrations and singing.
 
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BTW...I'm not PARANOID:unsure::whistle::devilish:.......BUT,when this episode is over..
They are associated with a club about which there is much I struggle with. Through their recent behaviour they amplify these things, and so I struggle to give my support to the team that they profess to follow - a team I would actually wish to do well beyond the confines of Scotland.

Why should I wish for anything that gives any satisfaction to such individuals that shame our country. If it were simply a small minority then that would make it easier, but they are many, and whilst the majority might publically express their dismay and rejection of the actions, behaviour and songs - I suspect that for too many, inside, the feeling is not one of utter dismay and abhorrence - but rather an albeit perhaps rather guilty wish that they too could be joining in the celebrations and singing.

Are you being serious? You suspect that for too many...not dismay and abhorrence...guilty(?) wish to join in-what?-trashing Glasgow?...celebrations and singing-what?-songs of bile and hate?
It's very true ( and sadly so ) that this sizeable faction ( not a 'small' minority as per Ibrox PR deniers) have been damaging us for many years-and being allowed to with the silent assent of not only the various boards/management, but also the SFA/LEAGUE and Holyrood!
It's so good though that for someone like yourself to have so much help in being able to wield that HUGE ROD across our backs, because we're ALL GUILTY AREN'T WE??
Here's an idea for you-- St.Johnstone (and every other team in Scotland DO NOT ALLOW ANY RANGERS (bona fide AND alleged) FANS INTO THEIR GROUNDS NEXT SEASON-subject to i.d. verification being sorted out for ALL home support?? Yeah, can just see YOUR chairman -and all the others going for that (NOT)!!
Ach, I think I'll just give in to all the righteous on here as I'm really trying to defend the (unfortunately) indefensible----Jeez, I HATE backing away-maybe another day,maybe another day!!!
 

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BTW...I'm not PARANOID:unsure::whistle::devilish:.......BUT,when this episode is over..


Are you being serious? You suspect that for too many...not dismay and abhorrence...guilty(?) wish to join in-what?-trashing Glasgow?...celebrations and singing-what?-songs of bile and hate?
It's very true ( and sadly so ) that this sizeable faction ( not a 'small' minority as per Ibrox PR deniers) have been damaging us for many years-and being allowed to with the silent assent of not only the various boards/management, but also the SFA/LEAGUE and Holyrood!
It's so good though that for someone like yourself to have so much help in being able to wield that HUGE ROD across our backs, because we're ALL GUILTY AREN'T WE??
Here's an idea for you-- St.Johnstone (and every other team in Scotland DO NOT ALLOW ANY RANGERS (bona fide AND alleged) FANS INTO THEIR GROUNDS NEXT SEASON-subject to i.d. verification being sorted out for ALL home support?? Yeah, can just see YOUR chairman -and all the others going for that (NOT)!!
Ach, I think I'll just give in to all the righteous on here as I'm really trying to defend the (unfortunately) indefensible----Jeez, I HATE backing away-maybe another day,maybe another day!!!
We need visible and vocal demonstrations of some sort by the many decent Rangers fans appalled by the bigotry of many of their number and the vacillation of their club around that bigotry. We need that majority to utterly reject the behaviour and demand that the club bans all those involved in the illegal gatherings and violence.

But I am afraid that sadly I just don’t see that happening in any sustainable way. The club and much of its support thrives off what has grown since 1874 and it is poisonous. The decent supporters know that, but it is as if they are ok to put up with the behaviour and glorifying of the past, and I don’t know why.
 
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