Scottish Cup Final

maxfli65 said:
As a neutral I would say this is a sensible take on events, thats' how I saw it. Re the big guy picking up the kid, no idea what he's doing....hostage taking? Doesnt appear to harm him but weird.:mad:
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Doesn't appear harm? It's not his kid and he's on the park looking for a fight. What else is it?
 
bigslice said:
The real fans of football were in the stadium, and had no idea of the 'riot' happening elsewhere. What was sickening was the numerous assaults i witnessed by ra polis that nite. The walk back was intimidating as ra polis were itching to get there batons out. It was like they were trolling for an argument
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So it's just the real fans in the stadiums that sign about "fenian blood".

SPL has been a less hostile place the last 3 years without THE Rangers.
 
patricks148 said:
perhaps he is just a good citizen concerned for the child's safety and was taking him out of harms way??
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This, or is it because he's got a Rangers shirt on he's obviously looking to abduct a kid?
 
Jacko_G said:
SPL has been a less hostile place the last 3 years without THE Rangers.
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Even if that is true it is far too simplistic to place all the blame for any increased hostility solely on Rangers. It wasn't rangers fans that instigated trouble on Saturday and it wasn't Rangers fans that kicked off at fir park last year.

Time to stop demonising them.
 
Val said:
Doesn't appear harm? It's not his kid and he's on the park looking for a fight. What else is it?
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What else is it? - Well he could've hit him or kicked him if he wanted to but he didn't he picked him up, that's why it was a bit strange, he is not fighting with the child nor does he pursue the child, I'm not condoning his actions, they're wrong, but people just seem to make things up, moving him out the way may well have been the man's intention.
 
Jacko_G said:
So it's just the real fans in the stadiums that sign about "fenian blood".

SPL has been a less hostile place the last 3 years without THE Rangers.
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The singing of " The Billy Boys" has been much reduced in the last few years to such a point that it is hardly heard at any games, and even when it is sung the offending words were being replaced with " in EBTs",
Who says Rangers fans don't have a sense of humour.

As Karen has already said they haven't instigated any of the last two incidents, but had they not been as restrained both could have turned out an awful lot worse.

I was a 14 year old, at Hampden for the 1980 Cup Final and was at the bus heading home before we had heard anything had happened, but that didn't stop my parents being worried silly having seen it on tv
 
Adi2Dassler said:
lol. As if I care what folk on here think about what I did. Call the cops, be a grass like Lee Wallace. Loser.
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Nobody will have to call the cops and Lee Wallace didn't need to 'grass' anyone - it's pretty hard to avoid being caught on camera on the pitch at a Hampden cup final - if you are photographed by Getty, SNS, Associated Press, The Sun, The Record or any photographed/filmed by any of the many other media outlets/plocie surveillance then I'd guess you'll be getting a visit at some point as the police have said that they will pursue all those involved in the violence on both sides (and Rangers fans who went on the pitch are just as guilty as the Hibees) and also those who caused criminal damage to the pitch.

And if you do get convicted then you won't be going to watch your team again for a good while - Hibs will come down hard on everyone who was out of order.
 
Adi2Dassler said:
lol. As if I care what folk on here think about what I did. Call the cops, be a grass like Lee Wallace. Loser.
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So I assume that if I saw someone punch your mother/sister/daughter in the face knocking them out or putting them in a coma you wouldn't want me to tell the police who did it due to your apparent dislike of someone being a "grass"?
 
davidy233 said:
Nobody will have to call the cops and Lee Wallace didn't need to 'grass' anyone - it's pretty hard to avoid being caught on camera on the pitch at a Hampden cup final - if you are photographed by Getty, SNS, Associated Press, The Sun, The Record or any photographed/filmed by any of the many other media outlets/plocie surveillance then I'd guess you'll be getting a visit at some point as the police have said that they will pursue all those involved in the violence on both sides (and Rangers fans who went on the pitch are just as guilty as the Hibees) and also those who caused criminal damage to the pitch.

And if you do get convicted then you won't be going to watch your team again for a good while - Hibs will come down hard on everyone who was out of order.
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You're awfy confused. I went on the pitch, I took a sod of grass, I wasn't involved in any violence.But you think the police will hunt me down and charge me with what? Stealing a bit of turf? Keep taking the pills sunshine (on Leith).

And I bet you anything Hibs won't do a thing about the likes of me.A season ticket holder, player sponsor,shareholder and bus convener.
 
ColchesterFC said:
So I assume that if I saw someone punch your mother/sister/daughter in the face knocking them out or putting them in a coma you wouldn't want me to tell the police who did it due to your apparent dislike of someone being a "grass"?
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Because that's a like for like comparison. Stay off the meds....my grass comment was a direct reference to what the ref said to Wallace on Saturday, it might have gone over your head.
 
Well with the agressive nature of the posting I can see why it kicked off

I'm also unsure why you seem to believe you are untouchable because of being a season ticket holder and share holder ( thought that would mean you behaviour expectation levels would be higher ). If you are caught on camera doing an act deemed illegal by the police ( including criminal damage and that could be taking a prize from the pitch ) then you being a season ticket holder would be irrelevant to both the police and the club.

And pitch invasions are something that sees clubs get fined or worse

As for the child being grabbed - that is an awful thing to seen but what was he doing ?! Trying to move him but he looked like he was using him as a shield which itself is shocking.

The other video of the Hibs fans goading is shocking - especially the bloke whose son is trying to get his father to move away - what a wonderful role model.

And then the assaults on the players and staff is shocking and the response from the Rangers fans is just as poor

I hope all the people involved in the violence , incitement and anything else that caused an issue are banned from football for life - it's such a shame that the actions after the whistle have over shadowed the actual result.

There is no justification for anyone's actions on the day after the whistle went. Celebrate in the stands simple as that
 
Adi2Dassler said:
I think you're possibly missing the nuance in my post. Are you OK there pal? Mibbe a wee lie down might help?
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There was no nuance to miss. Writing a post with nuance would require a level of intelligence that your following posts seem to indicate you don't possess. Insulting people for holding a different opinion to yourself is hardly displaying intelligence.

You said that someone reporting you to the police would be a "grass" (your word, not mine) but it would be different if the offence was different. I was just wondering at what level of offence, in your opinion, the distinction between being a grass and a witness was. For example, is reporting shop lifting being a grass but reporting a mugging being a witness?
 
Jacko_G said:
So it's just the real fans in the stadiums that sign about "fenian blood".

SPL has been a less hostile place the last 3 years without THE Rangers.
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I dont remember what songs were sung at manchester, i was too busy watching the game. Ra polis battering fans leaving the stadium doesnt bother u? But signing does!! Might have to plod over some of ure previous postings "jacko".
 
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