Scotland V Germany

[Robster59]

On a slight aside, I was in a hotel last night in Manchester and the blokes in the bar (all English) were cheering for Scotland.
I very much doubt that if England were on in a Scottish bar the English team would be being cheered on.

 

[Farneyman]

On a slight aside, I was in a hotel last night in Manchester and the blokes in the bar (all English) were cheering for Scotland.
I very much doubt that if England were on in a Scottish bar the English team would be being cheered on.

In fairness they were playing Germany :whoo:

 

[Doon frae Troon]

In fairness they were playing Germany :whoo:

:lol:

 

[Hobbit]

As mentioned, I believe there is an 'ach at least we tried' mentality that is deemed acceptable by the fans, the teams, the gaffers and the FA. They should have got a rocket up their erse for the Georgia result.......and plenty others before that.

Fair enough against teams like Germany, but far too many times they don't seem to try as hard in the games they could and should win. I can't give teams like that my support, I really can't.

And as long as folks support that, it ain't gonna change for the better.

We should be beating the teams in that group imo (Germans aside).

Well said!:thup:

There's too many 'political' comments(excuses) made by managers and boards, when in reality sometimes you just have to say it as it is. Not good enough, naive whatever, but at least be honest.

Scotland, like England, have failed to deliver on many occasions down the years. Recognising it, and dealing with it with passion is the only way forward.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I'm looking forward to Scotland's other major team challenging for the SPL while developing and bringing through young Scottish talent for the Scotland Squad - cos they haven't been much help over the last few years - maybe make that a bit longer than a 'few' years. And we need a wee bit more - and that other team should be able to provide it, if they put their mind to it.

Since when did Rangers or Celtic develop young talent ?
Difficult to name one decent Scottish player over the last 20 years who have come through their systems.
They usually just buy the other Scottish teams best players.

 

[Val]

On a slight aside, I was in a hotel last night in Manchester and the blokes in the bar (all English) were cheering for Scotland.
I very much doubt that if England were on in a Scottish bar the English team would be being cheered on.

Likewise in Runcorn

 

[Val]

Since when did Rangers or Celtic develop young talent ?
Difficult to name one decent Scottish player over the last 20 years who have come through their systems.
They usually just buy the other Scottish teams best players.

Barry Ferguson?

I'll go on with more if you like

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Barry Ferguson?

I'll go on with more if you like

Square Baws can't be too far off his pension now.:lol:

 

[Deleted member 15344]

On a slight aside, I was in a hotel last night in Manchester and the blokes in the bar (all English) were cheering for Scotland.
I very much doubt that if England were on in a Scottish bar the English team would be being cheered on.

I really cant ever see a problem with Scottish people cheering on Englands opponents.

Scotland are Englands biggest rivals - its part and parcel of support that there will always be a need to want the to do badly

its the same with peoples idea that English teams should be supported in Europe by other teams fans - No - support your own team and then want others to fail.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I really cant ever see a problem with Scottish people cheering on Englands opponents.

Scotland are Englands biggest rivals - its part and parcel of support that there will always be a need to want the to do badly

its the same with peoples idea that English teams should be supported in Europe by other teams fans - No - support your own team and then want others to fail.

Nope, totally disagree, I would love all four Home Nations and ROI to qualify for all tournaments, it would give the game in the UK and Ireland a massive lift, when we play each other, only want England to win, when England are out, happy to support the other teams, it's football not war, why would i want anyone else to fail because we have.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Nope, totally disagree, I would love all four Home Nations and ROI to qualify for all tournaments, it would give the game in the UK and Ireland a massive lift, when we play each other, only want England to win, when England are out, happy to support the other teams, it's football not war, why would i want anyone else to fail because we have.

I agree. I hope as many of the home nations get through as possible and I'll be cheering them on (as long as it's not against England). Same when British teams play in Europe. I always want them to do well

 

[Val]

Square Baws can't be too far off his pension now.:lol:

Your point?

 

[richart]

Nope, totally disagree, I would love all four Home Nations and ROI to qualify for all tournaments, it would give the game in the UK and Ireland a massive lift, when we play each other, only want England to win, when England are out, happy to support the other teams, it's football not war, why would i want anyone else to fail because we have.

I agree, and the likes of Wales, Northern Ireland, ROI usually have one or two of our current or past players playing for them. I watched most of the N Ireland and Wales games last time out, but didn't bother much with the England game.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Since when did Rangers or Celtic develop young talent ?
Difficult to name one decent Scottish player over the last 20 years who have come through their systems.
They usually just buy the other Scottish teams best players.

think I was mibbe being a wee bit t-i-c?

 

[Robster59]

I always support all the Home Nations, irrespective of who they are playing. I'm old enough to remember that if you wanted to support a British team at the World Cup, it HAD to be Scotland. Sadly they never seemed to play to what should have been the combined ability of the players they had at the time. Saying that, England generally fail to impress when it comes to the major finals.

 

[Farneyman]

I'm old enough to remember that if you wanted to support a British team at the World Cup, it HAD to be Scotland.

You should have been watching the mighty Republic of Ireland...at least we have got by the first round

 

[Three]

Nope, totally disagree, I would love all four Home Nations and ROI to qualify for all tournaments, it would give the game in the UK and Ireland a massive lift, when we play each other, only want England to win, when England are out, happy to support the other teams, it's football not war, why would i want anyone else to fail because we have.

You've obviously never sat in a bar in Ireland, Wales or Scotland when England are playing anyone in any sport.

They hate us, it's pure vitriol. ABE, Anyone But England, like FairwayDodger said somewhere.

I gave up on this friendly business of supporting our neighbours a long time ago.

 

[Beezerk]

You've obviously never sat in a bar in Ireland, Wales or Scotland when England are playing anyone in any sport.

They hate us, it's pure vitriol. ABE, Anyone But England, like FairwayDodger said somewhere.

I gave up on this friendly business of supporting our neighbours a long time ago.

Yep, had that one in abundance but that's their problem, I don't think it's right to lower myself to the same standards.

 

[Three]

Yep, had that one in abundance but that's their problem, I don't think it's right to lower myself to the same standards.

Totally agree.
I don't actively root against any of our neighbours, I just don't cheer for them.
Just very neutral.

 

[FairwayDodger]

You've obviously never sat in a bar in Ireland, Wales or Scotland when England are playing anyone in any sport.

They hate us, it's pure vitriol. ABE, Anyone But England, like FairwayDodger said somewhere.

I gave up on this friendly business of supporting our neighbours a long time ago.

It's not hatred really, not on my part anyway, just a bit of fun. Fairly natural and understandable when you consider life in the shadow of a bigger and, consequently, more successful neighbour. Truth be told I'd probably support England more if we weren't subjected to your jingoistic coverage.