Scotland V Germany

NWJocko said:
Ah, the old Rangers fans (some of, not all) views on Scotland.....

I don't accept excuses, the fact is "dross" is pretty much what we are hence my low expectations. We weren't unlucky last night, Germany could have won by 5 or 6.

The rankings are nonsense, the seedlings for these draws are more indicative of standing IMO and we were seeded 4th.

Demanding better is fine if you've got a chequebook to improve it, Scotland's players are limited in ability (particularly in an attacking sense) so not sure what you would suggest?
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Well, I'd probably have played Griffiths up front and not Fletcher for a start. Went for the goals against Georgia at all costs and not been too fussed about the Germans.

Does that fit in with the thinking behind yer first sentence btw? :(

Their my views, and have **** all to do with the team I support (which appears to be a bit of an issue from time to time with some folk on here if you ask me!!) It does tend to get brought into discussions (not by me btw) when its not really merited.

It makes you wonder and really pisses you off after a while.
 
I believe Scotland will still make the play offs at Irelands expense as I think we will struggle to take any points from our last 2 games home to Germany and then away to Poland.

Then again we could sneak 6 points!
 
c1973 said:
Well, I'd probably have played Griffiths up front and not Fletcher for a start. Went for the goals against Georgia at all costs and not been too fussed about the Germans.

Does that fit in with the thinking behind yer first sentence btw? :(

Their my views, and have **** all to do with the team I support (which appears to be a bit of an issue from time to time with some folk on here if you ask me!!) It does tend to get brought into discussions (not by me btw) when its not really merited.

It makes you wonder and really pisses you off after a while.
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Why are you so down on your national team? Genuine question.
 
c1973 said:
Well, I'd probably have played Griffiths up front and not Fletcher for a start. Went for the goals against Georgia at all costs and not been too fussed about the Germans.

Does that fit in with the thinking behind yer first sentence btw? :(

Their my views, and have **** all to do with the team I support (which appears to be a bit of an issue from time to time with some folk on here if you ask me!!) It does tend to get brought into discussions (not by me btw) when its not really merited.

It makes you wonder and really pisses you off after a while.
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Not as much as listening to some a rangers fans views on the National team ;)

Griffiths would have made a massive difference when we had none of the ball, you're right.....

Scotland have so few decent attacking players that "going for goals" is easier said than done. Been the same way for years, hence why we can defend our way to narrow defeats or the odd draw against better teams but put the focus on us to go and beat teams it's a different story.
 
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Farneyman said:
Why are you so down on your national team? Genuine question.
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As mentioned, I believe there is an 'ach at least we tried' mentality that is deemed acceptable by the fans, the teams, the gaffers and the FA. They should have got a rocket up their erse for the Georgia result.......and plenty others before that.

Fair enough against teams like Germany, but far too many times they don't seem to try as hard in the games they could and should win. I can't give teams like that my support, I really can't.

And as long as folks support that, it ain't gonna change for the better.

We should be beating the teams in that group imo (Germans aside).
 
NWJocko said:
Not as much as listening to some a rangers fans views on the National team ;)

Griffiths would have made a massive difference when we had none of the ball, you're right.....

Scotland have so few decent attacking players that "going for goals" is easier said than done. Been the same way for years, hence why we can defend our way to narrow defeats or the odd draw against better teams but put the focus on us to go and beat teams it's a different story.
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Well, we are used to winning and tend not to tolerate mediocrity. Maybe take a leaf out their book and force change?

If y'all are happy with glorious failure, then carry on, don't let me spoil the party. Just don't expect me to join in.
 
HomerJSimpson said:
Given the limited resources and the quality of the SPL I think the Scots have done well and are making decent progress under Strachan with some talented young players coming through
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We've been 'making progress' since Craig Broon left! How much 'progress' can a team make? 'Progress' doesn't seem to get you into tournaments.
 
c1973 said:
Well, we are used to winning and tend not to tolerate mediocrity. Maybe take a leaf out their book and force change?

If y'all are happy with glorious failure, then carry on, don't let me spoil the party. Just don't expect me to join in.
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Why do you assume that Scotland fans accept mediocrity and don't want success as much as "ra people" do?

You'll be happy with the score tonight I'm sure ;)
 
c1973 said:
As mentioned, I believe there is an 'ach at least we tried' mentality that is deemed acceptable by the fans, the teams, the gaffers and the FA. They should have got a rocket up their erse for the Georgia result.......and plenty others before that.

Fair enough against teams like Germany, but far too many times they don't seem to try as hard in the games they could and should win. I can't give teams like that my support, I really can't.

And as long as folks support that, it ain't gonna change for the better.

We should be beating the teams in that group imo (Germans aside).
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But surely thats what a football fan does...sticks with "their" team no matter what???

As far as club football goes I have zero interest in it these days and enjoy the national games as I can remember as a young kid watching Ireland in qualifying for Euro 88, Italia 90 and USA 94 and the craic and results that followed with those tournaments

I think I was confused by some of your posts and wasnt sure if you were Scottish as you mentioned "they" meaning Scotland in a post and then in another post "we". However I am easily confused. :D

If Scotland were doing better would you support them?
 
Farneyman said:
But surely thats what a football fan does...sticks with "their" team no matter what???

As far as club football goes I have zero interest in it these days and enjoy the national games as I can remember as a young kid watching Ireland in qualifying for Euro 88, Italia 90 and USA 94 and the craic and results that followed with those tournaments

I think I was confused by some of your posts and wasnt sure if you were Scottish as you mentioned "they" meaning Scotland in a post and then in another post "we". However I am easily confused. :D

If Scotland were doing better would you support them?
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Probably not. I'm too long away from them to have the passion a fan should have.
 
chippa1909 said:
Because he's a Rangers supporter. Lots (not all) support England and NI for ahem various reasons.
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See previous post as to what I think of this.
And you say my rhetoric is disgraceful and makes me look foolish.

Have a word with yourself.


Edit. Really sick of these sly insinuations now. It's not the first time, nowhere near, (even had it from a mod) and tends to go unchecked. Really poor show imo.
 
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c1973 said:
See previous post as to what I think of this.
And you say my rhetoric is disgraceful and makes me look foolish.

Have a word with yourself.


Edit. Really sick of these sly insinuations now. It's not the first time, nowhere near, (even had it from a mod) and tends to go unchecked. Really poor show imo.
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I'll apologise for tarring you with the brush of some "fans" I've had the misfortune to come across in my time although was tongue in cheek.

However, you are free to mock Scotland fans for supporting their team but when you are questioned it's ok to throw the toys out the pram? I do hope the 15,000 gers fans missing from ibrox find "the passion" next year again, I'm sure they will.

Did you ever support Scotland out of interest? If so what put you off?
 
NWJocko said:
I'll apologise for tarring you with the brush of some "fans" I've had the misfortune to come across in my time although was tongue in cheek.

However, you are free to mock Scotland fans for supporting their team but when you are questioned it's ok to throw the toys out the pram? I do hope the 15,000 gers fans missing from ibrox find "the passion" next year again, I'm sure they will.

Did you ever support Scotland out of interest? If so what put you off?
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Yep. Been to quite a few games as a youngster. Already explained.


Toys aren't out the pram. Just a bit fed up with sly insinuations that crop up from time time on here (as mentioned).

Anyway, I've put my opinion over, ill bow out, let you discuss your team in peace and let others figure out what chippa was insinuating with his 'ahem various reasons' comment.

:)
 
Farneyman said:
But surely thats what a football fan does...sticks with "their" team no matter what???

As far as club football goes I have zero interest in it these days and enjoy the national games as I can remember as a young kid watching Ireland in qualifying for Euro 88, Italia 90 and USA 94 and the craic and results that followed with those tournaments

I think I was confused by some of your posts and wasnt sure if you were Scottish as you mentioned "they" meaning Scotland in a post and then in another post "we". However I am easily confused. :D

If Scotland were doing better would you support them?
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I'm looking forward to Scotland's other major team challenging for the SPL while developing and bringing through young Scottish talent for the Scotland Squad - cos they haven't been much help over the last few years - maybe make that a bit longer than a 'few' years. And we need a wee bit more - and that other team should be able to provide it, if they put their mind to it.
 
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