Scotland Debate

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I think you may find that the Block Grant comes out from the UK tax payer. Plus the £72 million a year paid for by the UK tax payer for the upkeep and running of them place.

So some might say that Scotland lives off handouts from the UK government

Wonder if that handout will be cut in the years following a NO. Certainly the most recent Westminster budgets are telling of significant reductions in spending over the coming years to reduce the UK deficit - and they will happen regardless of who is in government in Westminster. So a NO vote is cast in the full knowledge that cuts are coming.

 

[Adi2Dassler]

A2D, I think we all agree, and many have said, stats can be twisted to suit the argument therefore I must score that 2/10. Must go, RND calling for a free round ne:

I'd agree, if you could provide me with an alternative pov using the same stats, ideally not from a politician, but somone engaged in defending the no vote?

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

So some might say that Scotland lives off handouts from the UK government

Wonder if that handout will be cut in the years following a NO. Certainly the most recent Westminster budgets are telling of significant reductions in spending over the coming years to reduce the UK deficit - and they will happen regardless of who is in government in Westminster. So a NO vote is cast in the full knowledge that cuts are coming.

So you don't think a Scottish Government, with the inherited debt as you mostly all accept you would have to take, would make cuts?

 

[Adi2Dassler]

So you don't think a Scottish Government, with the inherited debt as you mostly all accept you would have to take, would make cuts?

It's the choice of where to make cuts that's essential.Maybe we'd like to cut corp tax to stimulate inward investment, maybe we'd cut housing benefit or job seekers allowance, maybe we'd cut our military spend or education budget.Having the choice is the main point.

 

[Val]

Latest reports suggest support for a YES vote has fallen to 37% from 39%

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

It's the choice of where to make cuts that's essential.Maybe we'd like to cut corp tax to stimulate inward investment, maybe we'd cut housing benefit or job seekers allowance, maybe we'd cut our military spend or education budget.Having the choice is the main point.

I understand that, but SILH was implying that these cuts would only exist in a post-No world, at least that was the way it seemed to me!

 

[CMAC]

Latest reports suggest support for a YES vote has fallen to 37% from 39%

where are these reports and polls- I STILL dont know anyone on this planet who has been polled.


My prediction of a mid-high 20's percentile for yes and mid-high 70's percentile for no I still feel is valid.

 

[Adi2Dassler]

Latest reports suggest support for a YES vote has fallen to 37% from 39%

Just had a quite look at the obvious media outlets who would carry such news..,.BBC/Telegraph and no sign, where you seeing this?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I understand that, but SILH was implying that these cuts would only exist in a post-No world, at least that was the way it seemed to me!

No actually I didn't. I said that a NO vote would be made in the 100% certainty (and certainty is in short supply in this debate) that Scotland and the Scottish electorate will suffer cuts in many funding streams coming from Westminster. What might happen in the circumstances of a YES is uncertain.

 

[FairwayDodger]

Just had a quite look at the obvious media outlets who would carry such news..,.BBC/Telegraph and no sign, where you seeing this?

Found it here.....

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/independence-blow-alex-salmond-record-3394387

"No" vote also fell (by 1%), support for "undecided" on the rise.....

 

[Adi2Dassler]

Found it here.....

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/independence-blow-alex-salmond-record-3394387

"No" vote also fell (by 1%), support for "undecided" on the rise.....

Ta.wouldn't have thought to look at the record.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Best joke of the campaign is from Alisdair Carmichael.

When he was a young MP he was in an hotel in London with some colleagues. At the bar he was approached by a very pretty girl and they got chatting.
When he went back to his group they inquired about the girl.
'We had a lot in common' said Alisdair 'She said she was a Coll Girl and as you know I'm from Tiree.'

 

[Val]

Just had a quite look at the obvious media outlets who would carry such news..,.BBC/Telegraph and no sign, where you seeing this?

The working mans poll

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/independence-blow-alex-salmond-record-3394387


Edit - Beat me to it FD

 

[Val]

where are these reports and polls- I STILL dont know anyone on this planet who has been polled.


My prediction of a mid-high 20's percentile for yes and mid-high 70's percentile for no I still feel is valid.

I dont think it will be quite the landslide as that but in excess of 60% NO imo

And i've yet to be asked by an official outlet either and like you I dont know anyone who has.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I hear the NaeSayers have a new anthem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYmjW9_YJ7E

 

[Old Skier]

No actually I didn't. I said that a NO vote would be made in the 100% certainty (and certainty is in short supply in this debate) that Scotland and the Scottish electorate will suffer cuts in many funding streams coming from Westminster. What might happen in the circumstances of a YES is uncertain.

We are all going to suffer cuts. Why do you word everything like the RUK have a down on Scotland. Lighten up.

 

[SocketRocket]

We are all going to suffer cuts. Why do you word everything like the RUK have a down on Scotland. Lighten up.

Thats spot on. The deficit has only been reduced by around a third. The cuts have not scratched the surface yet.

 

[Iaing]

We are all going to suffer cuts.

Please enlighten us as to what cuts will affect you.

 

[SocketRocket]

Please enlighten us as to what cuts will affect you.

Nothings specific about him, we are all going to see cuts affecting us, whether it be council tax, benefits, health or defence.

Please enlighten us on which cuts wont affect you?

 

[NWJocko]

No actually I didn't. I said that a NO vote would be made in the 100% certainty (and certainty is in short supply in this debate) that Scotland and the Scottish electorate will suffer cuts in many funding streams coming from Westminster.

On what do you base this? You have examples to prove the "100% certainty"?