Scotland Debate

[SocketRocket]

Ye poowers that mak mankind their care
an dish them oot their bill O fare
Ald Scotland wants na skinking ware
that joups in luggies.

So if ya want her grateful prayer
Gi her a Ruble!

 

[Doon frae Troon]

According to George Soros it would seem that the euro would be the most likely currency for Scotland in the event of a Yes vote.

You take advice from a man who caused Black Thursday?

That is nearly as bad as asking Alisdair Darling and George Brown advice on the UK economy.

 

[Foxholer]

You take advice from a man who caused Black Thursday?

That is nearly as bad as asking Alisdair Darling and George Brown advice on the UK economy.

George Soros didn't cause Black Thursday! For a couple of reasons!

Firstly, the Interest Rate disaster in 1992 he was involved in was Black Wednesday!

Secondly, the cause was the idiot committee that set/agreed the Rules of the ERM - and didn't foresee the potential for disaster they had created - and the idiots that didn't realise how powerful markets could be.

Soros was simply the biggest winner of those that took advantage of the situation when it inevitably arrived!

 

[Deleted member 18588]

You take advice from a man who caused Black Thursday?

That is nearly as bad as asking Alisdair Darling and George Brown advice on the UK economy.

If I were able to obtain advice from Mr Soros I would certainly take it as it would likely have more credibility than that offered by a " fiscal studies expert ".

 

[Val]

You take advice from a man who caused Black Thursday?

That is nearly as bad as asking Alisdair Darling and George Brown advice on the UK economy.

George Brown?

I'll assume you mean Gordon Brown, who was the man that drove the economy to the beaks in the early to mid 2000's as chancellor, and managed to keep us away from the Euro. Gordon Brown wasn't to blame for the national economic meltdown, he just happened to be PM when it happened.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

George Brown?

I'll assume you mean Gordon Brown, who was the man that drove the economy to the beaks in the early to mid 2000's as chancellor, and managed to keep us away from the Euro. Gordon Brown wasn't to blame for the national economic meltdown, he just happened to be PM when it happened.

Oops sorry I must have been on Tony Benn mode thinking.......George Brown indeed, what a fool he was.

 

[Adi2Dassler]

According to George Soros it would seem that the euro would be the most likely currency for Scotland in the event of a Yes vote.

Well George Soros is talking guff, but trot on and take his word for it.

 

[One Planer]

Well George Soros is talking guff, but trot on and take his word for it.

Is there any firm evidence to the contrary?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I find it quite amazing that a guy who did huge damage to the UK economy, made many folk bankrupt, and caused widespread poverty is suddenly a 'person to be listened to'.

 

[Foxholer]

I find it quite amazing that a guy who did huge damage to the UK economy, made many folk bankrupt, and caused widespread poverty is suddenly a 'person to be listened to'.

As MP for Kirkaldy, Gordon has probably earned that right! :whoo:

 

[Doon frae Troon]

That did make me chuckle!!

 

[Adi2Dassler]

Is there any firm evidence to the contrary?

there is no evidence to support either opinion, except you can be an EU nation and NOT use the euro.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

We had quite an interesting discussion last night on why the City/Westminster did not rescue Northern Rock and Bradford and Bingley.

 

[Val]

We had quite an interesting discussion last night on why the City/Westminster did not rescue Northern Rock and Bradford and Bingley.

So who rescued Northern Rock?

 

[Foxholer]

We had quite an interesting discussion last night on why the City/Westminster did not rescue Northern Rock and Bradford and Bingley.

Did anyone point out that, by Nationalising them, they were rescued?

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Well George Soros is talking guff, but trot on and take his word for it.

We now appear to have reached the point where anyone offering an opinion not deemed acceptable to the Yes side's argument is dismissed, regardless of their standing, as talking guff.

Sad!

 

[G1BB0]

What do the Scots bring to the table....

Cant get on a ride on Blackpool pleasure beach beacause of them
Have to wait ages for the lower league footy results cos some random league is 1st
The odd delivery driver who one has to then phone up the company and have a translator or hopes they have a babelfish implant
Dougie Donnelly


I will let them off with the TV and the telephone

 

[Old Skier]

except you can be an EU nation and NOT use the euro.

Not if your a new boy

 

[SocketRocket]

George Brown?

I'll assume you mean Gordon Brown, who was the man that drove the economy to the beaks in the early to mid 2000's as chancellor, and managed to keep us away from the Euro. Gordon Brown wasn't to blame for the national economic meltdown, he just happened to be PM when it happened.

I would question that. He increased public spending by 60% on his watch, opened the floodgates to immigration to the extent our public services are in meltdown due to the increased demand and birthrate. Increased borrowing by unprecedented levels to prop up his vast increases in benefits (Tax credits etc). The financial meltdown was not the major cause for the massive deficit in the Nations finances.

 

[Foxholer]

I would question that. He increased public spending by 60% on his watch, opened the floodgates to immigration to the extent our public services are in meltdown due to the increased demand and birthrate. Increased borrowing by unprecedented levels to prop up his vast increases in benefits (Tax credits etc). The financial meltdown was not the major cause for the massive deficit in the Nations finances.

I think you are wearing your (our) blue tinted specs Socket. It wasn't him that opened the floodgates of immigration! That was the result of another (Blue) Government's action. Tax Credits were/are 'Fiscally Neutral' simply being a different - to him, 'fairer' - way to provide the same service. No different, really, than the Universal Credit' the the Coalition has introduced.

And far from reducing the deficit, the Coalition is continuing to run way ahead of its own deficit predictions and the deficit is increasing! All just a propoganda war - that the Coalition (actually the Tories) happens to be in the best position to take advantage of - imo!

Btw.
The Financial meltdown may have been the wind that blew the house of cards down, but it was also the balloon of hot air that the cards were sitting on in the first place. and that reliance on Financial Services, as opposed to 'real' products goes back to Thatcher and beyond - imo!

Here's an article you should browse! http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article37845.html

So in that regard, I agree with Val!

While I believe the referendum result will be a reasonably solid 'No', I think Cameron will get more and more desperate as time goes by as I'm certain he doesn't want to be seen as the guy in charge when Scotland was 'lost' from the United Kingdom! It was always going to be a very negative 'campaign', but I believe it will bet more-so by June /July!