Val
Ryder Cup Winner
Outrageous, the questions and opinions on this thread would always be robust, you weren't shy of being opinionated yourself but you couldn't back any up why challenged and swerved many valid points asked.
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Scotland Debate
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Outrageous, the questions and opinions on this thread would always be robust, you weren't shy of being opinionated yourself but you couldn't back any up why challenged and swerved many valid points asked.
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
Nonsense, all were questions.
1 - What makes you think that the BBC will be ditched? Valid question to a post from DFT, I questioned his opinion.
2 - So why did/is our economy grow/growing at a slower rate than that of the UK? Valid question to a post from DFT.
3 - How can it be nothing to so with Scotland if it's Scotland that's affecting it? Again another valid question.
How can you defend that?
Foxholer
Blackballed
Easily - as per my 3rd para!
Remember, I make no judgement on the validity of the opinions - neither his (unsubstantiated?) one, nor yours that included 1 example that countered his.
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c1973
Guest
Genuine apologies if you feel any of my comments were bullying you. If that line was crossed then it wasn't my intention to do so.
That being said, you can come across as being opinionated (not saying that's bad btw) and in my experience folks like that can usually deal with a more robust debate. It has been (mostly) a good natured debate you have started with as much nonsense as there is well thought out posts, be a shame to bail out on your own thread.
Old Skier
Tour Winner
Bullying - battle cry of the Yes campaign. :lol: Love it, it's the internet FFS, nobody gets hurt.
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c1973
Guest
Hmm, that looks like a silver cross pram, those wheels made great bogies (cartie, go kart) and were much sought after when I was a youngster.
Ah, the toys oot the pram............
Yeah, on reflection you're probably correct.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
No - some comments have been downright rude
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Tbh I haven't really seen these "rude" comments or is it a case of being a little over sensitive
Can you highlight some examples?
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
If you have a look back yourself on responses by a few to some posts made by myself and DfT (in particular) you should notice how some are rude in that they are dismissive, scornful and rather snidey. If you don't find any so be it - I'm not going to point you to any - you should be able to spot them quite easily yourself.
But hey - the world moves on and I'm not really that bothered - it was just a bit disappointing,
But hey - the world moves on and I'm not really that bothered - it was just a bit disappointing,
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
From 27th January I was thinking that down here in England following a NO, voters in England wouldn't be happy with the status quo on funding - to be told that this wasn't really an issue down here for most folks - well funnily enough it seems to be an issue now.
Old Skier
Tour Winner
Well if your mates down the pub said it wasn't going to be an issue they were pulling your plonker. This has always been an issue long before the Independence vote. The only thing the UK people want to see is fairness. If it is fair then the political class need to explain why.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
My mates in the pub and in the club were telling me it was an issue - some here didn't. So when BT were giving their 'best of both worlds' stuff if a NO - saying nothing would change all along I said that a NO would not give the status quo and the English electorate wouldn't stand for the current situation. They'd say You vote to stay in the UK then you get funded the same as the rest of the UK. And so it has come to pass. And all nice and messily tangled up with the English votes on English matters.
Going to be interesting seeing the government untangle what Cameron tangled at 7am on the 19th.
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SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
A £2.6 billion contract has secured 1,500 jobs at the Clyde naval base which is home to the UK's nuclear deterrent, the Defence Secretary (has) said
Hmmm - didn't appreciate that they were ever at risk. Was there ever a possibility that the government would stop maintenance work on the subs at Faslane? Don't think so. Expensive job support scheme though at £1m+ a throw.
Hmmm - didn't appreciate that they were ever at risk. Was there ever a possibility that the government would stop maintenance work on the subs at Faslane? Don't think so. Expensive job support scheme though at £1m+ a throw.
AlexDarling
Club Champion
the govt policy is very clear about defence work only being carried out in this United Kingdom so I'm not sure why you think the above.
Foxholer
Blackballed
Well they'd certainly have been 'at risk' if the sub base had been chucked out of (an independent) Scotland!
And I would expect hardware would be the major costs in that contract, not the 1500 jobs.
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SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Yes - but it hasn't been - so the jobs have not been at risk since September 19th.
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
true,true.
Old Skier
Tour Winner
Did you read any of this thread. The bit where iscot was going to chuck out the subs which would have resulted in the loss of jobs and future investment or are we going to see another flip flop post.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Sorry - you've misunderstood what I posted.
The Tories were trumpeting yesterday that the jobs have been secured! But they have not been at risk since Scotland said NO. So they cannot have been 'secured' unless following the 19th September there was a residual risk that we are not aware of. The only residual risk would be that the whole shebang might have decamped to Devonport - but the risk of that was always miniscule; or they'd scrap Trident.
So please. All that has happened is that Westminster has declared how much it will cost to maintain the Trident submarine fleet at Faslane until 2020. The only thing that has actually been secured is the contract and profits that Babcocks get to do the work.
