Scotland Debate

[Deleted member 15344]

Did I not give an example of exaggerating or hyping up potential cost increases by JL. I concede that I have not been able to check back on all statements made by the JL boss this morning as he may have used the word 'hike' in respect of prices in a statement that I didn't hear.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29153022

Anything factual incorrect in this report from the BBC

 

[ger147]

I'm guessing that will be down to interpretation

Maybe it's more about what they are not saying

Ie they arent saying that all staff will remain in place but instead "a significant presence" will remain

I'm not interpreting anything, merely providing a link to what RBS are actually saying themselves. They have made no mention of job losses.

 

[ColchesterFC]

The statement makes no mention of job losses.

By implication retaining a "significant level" rather than for instance "retaining all" or "retaining our current level" indicates a reduction in numbers.

 

[Val]

Is it a fair assumption that if the major companies mentioned move their head office to England they effectively become and English company and pay their taxes to the rUK government?

If so how does the Scottish Government plan to make up this taxation shortfall?

Or will I get the token response of it being lies and it won't happen anyway?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I'm not interpreting anything, merely providing a link to what RBS are actually saying themselves. They have made no mention of job losses.

I know your not interpreting anything

Was more about how others could interpret the statement to mean that there will be job losses even though that's not been mentioned directly

 

[Dodger]

This will get dirtier and dirtier as the week goes on....filthy in fact.

Cameron will be contacting all and sundry to get them to put out any scare story that might swing it.

Supermarket chiefs next.

 

[Val]

As for much Scotland ditching the BBC, does that included BBC radio too? So no licence fee and again no revenue.

 

[ger147]

By implication retaining a "significant level" rather than for instance "retaining all" or "retaining our current level" indicates a reduction in numbers.

No it doesn't.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Is it a air assumption that if the major companies mentioned move their head office to England they effectively become and English company and pay their taxes to the rUK government?

If so how does the Scottish Government plan to make up this taxation shortfall?

Or will I get the token response of it being lies and it won't happen anyway?

Scaremongering will be the reply

I heard on the radio that someone has mentioned 20 thousand jobs will be created if a yes vote happens - but no one knows exactly what these jobs will be and why those jobs aren't being done right now by someone ?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

As for much Scotland ditching the BBC, does that included BBC radio too? So no licence fee and again no revenue.

Public would need to fund a national broadcaster.

Would possibly be higher than what we pay

 

[ColchesterFC]

No it doesn't.

Without wishing to sink to your level of debate.........

Oh yes it does.

 

[ger147]

Without wishing to sink to your level of debate.........

Oh yes it does.

It could be interpreted that way but it could also be interpreted that RBS currently has a significant level of its operations in Scotland and it intends to retain a significant level of its operations in Scotland i.e. no change at all.

So in summary, no it doesn't, not necessarily.

 

[Val]

Public would need to fund a national broadcaster.

Would possibly be higher than what we pay

If they have a national broadcaster, technically it's a Scottish asset too so Scotland are entitled to it however I cannot for the life of me are why an iScottish government would want to ditch it.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29153022

Anything factual incorrect in this report from the BBC

Not that I can see - however quoting from there

"When we are talking about two separate countries it is most probable that retailers will start pricing differently."

Not a lot of mention in that statement or anywhere in what the JL boss said of a 'hike' in prices - maybe he mentions an increase elsewhere. You'll now tell me that a 'hike' could actually just be a small increase - but you and I both know that a 'hike' does not usually imply a small increase

 

[FairwayDodger]

Strikes me as shoddy preparation as it's normal to have a balance in the audience for any such programme, but having failed to prepare properly by ensuring there is a balance, it's very poor form to ask people to lie for the sake of a TV programme when the subject matter is supposed to be factual and of such importance.

Agreed

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Not that I can see - however quoting from there

"When we are talking about two separate countries it is most probable that retailers will start pricing differently."

Not a lot of mention in that statement or anywhere in what the JL boss said of a 'hike' in prices - maybe he mentions an increase elsewhere. You'll now tell me that a 'hike' could actually just be a small increase - but you and I both know that a 'hike' does not usually imply a small increase

I haven't seen or heard the word hike so can't comment

Can only comment on what I have heard and read

Multiple outlets reports possibly price increases from companies like John Lewis

 

[Deleted member 15344]

If they have a national broadcaster, technically it's a Scottish asset too so Scotland are entitled to it however I cannot for the life of me are why an iScottish government would want to ditch it.

An Independant Scotland wouldn't ditch it

They would have their own BBC Scotland including their own news channel and possibly own current affairs program as they do now and purchase the other programmes like Strictly etc

 

[Val]

An Independant Scotland wouldn't ditch it

They would have their own BBC Scotland including their own news channel and possibly own current affairs program as they do now and purchase the other programmes like Strictly etc

I agree, so DFT I'll ask another question that you won't answer. Why will an iScotland ditch the BBC?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I haven't seen or heard the word hike so can't comment

Can only comment on what I have heard and read

Multiple outlets reports possibly price increases from companies like John Lewis

On JL boss statement BBC News was, for hours today, using the word 'hike' in one of the strapline headlines they rotate at the bottom of screen.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I agree, so DFT I'll ask another question that you won't answer. Why will an iScotland ditch the BBC?

It will still receive the BBC but it will set up it's own national broadcasting service - likely utilising the BBC Scotland facilities located throughout the country. Maybe just rename BBC Scotland - Scottish Broadcasting