Doon frae Troon
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Looks like Barack wants to keep the USA's missiles in Scotland and have Scottish soldiers back up their foreign policies.
Poor response from Mr Obama.
Poor response from Mr Obama.
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Don't you mean UK soldiers ? Because he stated he wants Scotland to stay in UK - stronger together and a strong allie for US
Salmond response was his usual
Val
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Geography not a strong point either I take it. Manchester is not the midlands.
4.1/2 hours? Did you get stuck in traffic?
Foxholer
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Why? He's provided his opinion/preference.
aka Consistent!
Doon frae Troon
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In my defense M'lud I did say nearly the Midlands.
Not really stuck but there was a big 50mph section where they are putting in the new pylons.
I also tend to not break the speeding laws when I drive.....By the speed of some of my fellow travelers I can see why there is such a big stushie about installing ASC's
SocketRocket
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Consistently vague.
Foxholer
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While I'm definitely not a fan of FE, I can 'forgive' him that approach - or even applaud it!
If he went into the detail of everything that was asked, he'd not only end up getting bogged down by the shear weight of it, but also provide more ammo for the Nos to challenge - and also be setting out policy that he/his party may not be the ones voted to implement. There is a fairly good strategy in The White Paper, though it does miss some, to me, important bits - understandably stressing the benefits of independence rather more than the cost of transition, for example.
It's a key attribute of a political leader to convincingly present an idea while being vague about the actual detail, as generally the idea gets floated a considerabe length of time before the actual detailed legislation/policy appears - or even the manifesto statement! How often does the legislation actually truly reflect what the initial 'new' idea was? There always seems to be additional bits stuck (or snuck) in by the time it gets its First Reading!
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Val
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I suppose 100 miles is nearly
How can you say traffic is quieter when the roads I highlighted you've never been on? Take it from me the M8 and M80 is equally as bad at peak times as any motorway in Northern England, I've never had any issues on the roads you mention and I do around 35'000 motorway miles a year.
Doon frae Troon
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I am never too sure of where t'North stops and the Midlands begin.......is there a boundary or any signs to look out for?
Old Skier
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Yep it's like the ones used in Scotland, common sence and knowledge. You need to get out more. Most Scots I know are well travelled.
Doon frae Troon
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Foxholer
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Midlands
I've been 'guilty' of thinking Liverpool/Manchester/Warrington as Midlands!
Stoke-on-Trent is probably the furthest North on the West (M6) side (Crew/Chesire is too far North). Sheffield is probably the border on the East - but is 'North'.
Doon frae Troon
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I can never understand why some towns/ cities are considered Northern [Sheffield] whilst more Northern towns [Grimsby] are Midlands.
Even funnier to us Scots is when the BBC weather man giving the UK weather report says 'and in the north' whilst pointing to Liverpool.
That's nearly South when it comes to the UK.
Even funnier to us Scots is when the BBC weather man giving the UK weather report says 'and in the north' whilst pointing to Liverpool.
That's nearly South when it comes to the UK.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Well living in Surrey I think that Sheffield is in the north midlands - but folk down here think it's in the North of England. Tends to highlight that few realise how much of England there is north o9f Sheffield.
Doon frae Troon
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Tends to support my thought that Manchester/Liverpool are nearly in the Midlands if the Oop North line is from the Humber to the Mersey.
Doon frae Troon
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So Glockasshire is in the Midlands and Naarfolk is in the South..........that does not make any sense whatsoever.
It seems to me that Mr Obama is being a tad hypocritical, given that the Yanks shoot their load on the 4th of July.
SocketRocket
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Norf of Bristol is where the Elephants go to die!
Doon frae Troon
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100 days to go and I am still totally undecided which way to vote.
I think about 750,000 Scots are in the same frame of mind.
I think about 750,000 Scots are in the same frame of mind.
Adi2Dassler
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Yup, and the level of debate needs to improve from everyone (except me
) to allow folk to make their choice.Re:Obama.I'm fine with him making his own opinion known, as long as everyone knows why he has that opinion.It's nothing to do with a romantic notion of The UK and everything to do with what Scotland within The UK offers America.
