Scotland Debate

[Old Skier]

So you would not allow my 89 year old Welsh mother who has resided in Scotland for 67 years a vote.
Despite the fact she must have lived many more years in Scotland than you have.

Your starting to sound less Scottish than me.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-26481574

There you go Old Skier.

Mind you we are still top of the UK murrrrrrrrrder lists.
I blame Taggart.

 

[c1973]

67 years living in a country without being granted vote. I think we have moved on a bit since 1850.

Indeed we have. Zero relevance to my point though.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Indeed we have. Zero relevance to my point though.

Suffragettes/votes for women!

 

[c1973]

Suffragettes/votes for women!

Definitely zero relevance to my point then. Thanks for the confirmation.

 

[Old Skier]

Definitely zero relevance to my point then. Thanks for the confirmation.

You want relevance. This is Yes v RUK, relevance was never part of the deal or else we would all have a vote as it will have implications on the lot of us especially if wee eck wants us to pay for his little plan.

 

[CMAC]

so Scotland can keep and use all its own income tax if we vote No by the Tories I heard on news tonight- good idea.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Definitely zero relevance to my point then. Thanks for the confirmation.

But your point was total rubbish, slightly scary and would never have been considered by anyone at anytime !!

 

[Old Skier]

so Scotland can keep and use all its own income tax if we vote No by the Tories I heard on news tonight- good idea.

Might win votes but it might upset a few south of the wall. I'm going to have to pay towards HS2 and won't get any benefit so why should the Scots be immune. Income tax goes towards a lot of things so not anything that appeals to me. If we are going down the devo max route by stealth then let Scotland have it's independence even though I am against it.

 

[c1973]

But your point was total rubbish, slightly scary and would never have been considered by anyone at anytime !!

Yep, very good point and well made. :mmm:


Whereas yours tend to burl away on a wee tangent with little reference to whatever it is your answering, at best. Or, quite often, they are just nonsense that has been made up with little (if any) basis in fact. :thup:

Must be something in the Werthers.............

 

[Doon frae Troon]

so Scotland can keep and use all its own income tax if we vote No by the Tories I heard on news tonight- good idea.

But the big question is do you trust the Tories to keep their word when it comes to Scotland.

The mainstream parties seem to be tripping over themselves to offer bigger and better Devo Max options now.
I wonder why that is as they seemed so confident of a NO win?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Yep, very good point and well made. :mmm:


Whereas yours tend to burl away on a wee tangent with little reference to whatever it is your answering, at best. Or, quite often, they are just nonsense that has been made up with little (if any) basis in fact. :thup:

Must be something in the Werthers.............

My neighbour has a great car sticker which says.
I would rather be an old fart than a young 'Richard' Head.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

But your point was total rubbish, slightly scary and would never have been considered by anyone at anytime !!

So nothing new in the Scotland Independance debate then

 

[c1973]

My neighbour has a great car sticker which says.
I would rather be an old fart than a young 'Richard' Head.

Mine has one that says 'oxygen thieves shouldn't be on the road'

 

[Old Skier]

But the big question is do you trust the Tories to keep their word when it comes to Scotland?

Do you wear a tin foil hat

 

[CMAC]

But the big question is do you trust the Tories to keep their word when it comes to Scotland.

The mainstream parties seem to be tripping over themselves to offer bigger and better Devo Max options now.
I wonder why that is as they seemed so confident of a NO win?

erm to get more votes for their party

 

[Doon frae Troon]

erm to get more votes for their party

They must feel they need them then

 

[Hobbit]

A three week wait for a doctors appointment......not in Scotland. I get same/next day appointments.
Mortgages/Rents more expensive in Scotland........on average definitely not
State school choices/education/class sizes...............much better in Scotland
Traffic/ pollution......................... miles better in Scotland
Crime.....................................lower in Scotland

Not blinkered or telling porkies.

Have the Scots invaded England again?

I get same day/next day GP appointments - I can't possibly be living in England.
Last year I bought a 3 bed detached house in a nice area of town, in sight of the Nth Yorks National Park and the North Sea. Did I say it was so cheap I didn't pay stamp duty? Maybe Nth Yorks is part of Scotland?
Education, & school choices. No problem around here! You've almost got me convinced I'm in Scotland...
Traffic, what traffic? Miles I do loads off, predominantly in northern England. A regular run is 135 miles to sunny Grimsby, and the same back... usually about 2hrs each way. Must be part of Scotland.
Crime, well I could take you to some really rough areas of the northeast. But they're safer than areas of Scotland. And I could take you to areas of the northeast that are as safe as the Highlands & Islands.

You don't half peddle some rubbish Doon. Have you found that bit in Section 30 yet that does mention finance?

 

[SocketRocket]

A three week wait for a doctors appointment......not in Scotland. I get same/next day appointments.
Mortgages/Rents more expensive in Scotland........on average definitely not
State school choices/education/class sizes...............much better in Scotland
Traffic/ pollution......................... miles better in Scotland
Crime.....................................lower in Scotland

Not blinkered or telling porkies.

So the fact that you live in a backwater hamlet is a fair comparison to life in Tower Hamlets! Take a look at these issues in larger connabations in Scotland and you will get a different picture.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Douglas Alexander v Daphnie on BBC 1 [Scotland] tonight 22.40.
Should be entertaining.