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Again another valid statement in regards Independence for Scotland
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Again another valid statement in regards Independence for Scotland
Adi2Dassler
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My statement was nothing about Scotland and everything about you, you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
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Where as i will prefer to stick to the subject instead of about the posters :thup:
Independence vote will not give a yes vote - thankfully enough people realise leaving is not a good thing in the long run - just my opinion ( backed up by the polls i understand ) of course.
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c1973
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I know polls may not be a completely accurate way to judge public opinion, but it's good to see a half decent lead for (imo) common sense.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/16630456
Edit: imo.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/16630456
Edit: imo.
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FairwayDodger
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Followers of the thread will no I'm a declared NO voter but I think it very wrong to characterise that opinion as "common sense". There is no right or wrong answer for the referendum. Scotland has done well as part of the union and would continue to do so but could equally flourish as an independent country, I'm sure. Whatever happens we all need to get along afterwards and make the most of the result, however we vote personally.
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Think that could be a big issue on both sides regardless of the results. Think some relationships could be damaged.
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c1973
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Quite correct, I should have added that it was in my opinion.
It will be interesting to see what happens after the vote in terms of it being accepted. I don't think we will see people rioting in the streets, but I think there may be quite a bit of Ill feeling created.
Whichever way the vote goes, I hope it is decisive. Imagine the bickering, finger pointing and bile that will pour out if it ends up as 49% 'v' 51%, either way.
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That has happened before the vote - can only see it increasing afterwards regardless of the result - some of the seeds of resentment have been sown already
Doon frae Troon
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Phil ......a Radio Scotland show tried to stir that one up and for over an hour on the phone ins there was absolutely no one complaining. It was in fact the exact opposite with folk ringing in to say that on the streets, the process has been very polite and respectful.
But hey...in the world of Phil that is not a story!
The fact that you seem happy to mop up Scotland's share of the UK's debt shows how little you know about the process.
rUK would be completely ruined if that was the case.
But hey...in the world of Phil that is not a story!
The fact that you seem happy to mop up Scotland's share of the UK's debt shows how little you know about the process.
rUK would be completely ruined if that was the case.
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Tried to stir up what ?
Are you really going to suggest a phone in paints the whole picture ?
read this thread for a bit of counter balance and you can see an undercurrent bubbling away.
The debt will not be an issue because i believe as been discussed that a yes vote will not happen.
I thought i would join in with the statements without any backing - seems mandatory on here and with this subject.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Who knows how English, Polish etc residents of Scotland will vote - however there will be interesting days if it turns out like that and the 2% margin is as a result of the votes of English voters (yes I know it doesn't actually work like that)
Doon frae Troon
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Virtually all of my circle of English born family, neighbours and friends who live in Scotland are voting for independence.
They still have close ties to their families and friends in England and hear all the horror stories of hospital/doctor waiting lists, mortgage/rent costs, school choices/education, traffic/polution, crime etc etc.
They say we would be mad not to.
Old Skier
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As this will not happen and does not happen north of the wall. Your either blinkered or just telling a few porkies.
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c1973
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No disrespect to our English neighbours, or Poles, Latvians etc. but I personally think it's scandalous that they have a vote at all. Just because they are resident in Scotland at the moment should never have entitled them to a say. After all they can scraper back across the border/s if they don't like the aftermath of the vote.
I wonder if they would be as keen on voting for independence if it meant rescinding their right to nationality of the country of their birth and accepting Scottish nationality without question, regardless of the outcome of the vote. I mean, if they care so much about Scotland it wouldn't be a problem would it?
This vote should have been for resident Scots only, no one else!
And yes, I know this has all been argued over and agreed but it does not make it right in my book.
I wonder if they would be as keen on voting for independence if it meant rescinding their right to nationality of the country of their birth and accepting Scottish nationality without question, regardless of the outcome of the vote. I mean, if they care so much about Scotland it wouldn't be a problem would it?
This vote should have been for resident Scots only, no one else!
And yes, I know this has all been argued over and agreed but it does not make it right in my book.
Doon frae Troon
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So you would not allow my 89 year old Welsh mother who has resided in Scotland for 67 years a vote.
Despite the fact she must have lived many more years in Scotland than you have.
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c1973
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Nope, sorry. Cut off point should have been 'born and currently residing in', imo.
Doon frae Troon
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A three week wait for a doctors appointment......not in Scotland. I get same/next day appointments.
Mortgages/Rents more expensive in Scotland........on average definitely not
State school choices/education/class sizes...............much better in Scotland
Traffic/ pollution......................... miles better in Scotland
Crime.....................................lower in Scotland
Not blinkered or telling porkies.
Doon frae Troon
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67 years living in a country without being granted vote. I think we have moved on a bit since 1850.
Old Skier
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I get same day, next day appointments with my docs
morgages set by banks, rent set by market forces. Never heard of it being set by country before
Schools much better in Scotland, maybe, but I would prefer a bit of proof on that.
Traffic and pollution less in Scotland - might be because there are less vehicles perhaps
Crime lower in Scotland - is this done by proportion of people living in the country or a figure just plucked out of thin air.
