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greenman

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Should failing to tick the relevant box on a scorecard to indicate which boxes tees (white or yellow)were used in a competition result in disqualification?
 

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Thanks for that.

One more query.
In a pairs Silloth competition if the individuals' handicaps aren't entered on the card but the joint allowance is can the committee default to putting the players off scratch? (I know it should really have resulted in a disqualification.)
 

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So, would there be any point in their appealing against the decision to put them off scratch? Or would it just mean they'd be disqualfied instead? Might there not be a case to say that the committee had obviously used their discretion in overlooking 6-2b and decided to impose their own, illegal, penalty. That penalty should therefore be revoked and the card be allowed to stand? Bit convoluted but you get my point?
 

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So, would there be any point in their appealing against the decision to put them off scratch? Or would it just mean they'd be disqualfied instead? Might there not be a case to say that the committee had obviously used their discretion in overlooking 6-2b and decided to impose their own, illegal, penalty. That penalty should therefore be revoked and the card be allowed to stand? Bit convoluted but you get my point?

You can always appeal to the Committee's lack of knowledge about the rules. They shouldn't give in, but you never know.
 

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Agreed. Like failing to write a handicap on.

I thought you were responsible for the score and handicap (which are particular to the individual), but the tees? The comp rules should lay that out, it's the same for everybody, so you shouldn't have to confirm whether you complied. Should I also write on there that I only carried 14 clubs?
 

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Agreed. Like failing to write a handicap on.

I thought you were responsible for the score and handicap (which are particular to the individual), but the tees? The comp rules should lay that out, it's the same for everybody, so you shouldn't have to confirm whether you complied. Should I also write on there that I only carried 14 clubs?

I'm pretty sure I agree to the above. It is your competition responsibility to have the competition and date on the card etc. and all that you have to put down is your name and handicap. I never heard of having to tick the teebox you are off anyway. :D
 

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I was under the impression that everything connected with the card is the competitiors responsibility. We have some events where you need to mark your tee time (admittedly the pro/assistant do them for medal and stablefords) and you have to put your name and handicap down.

The tees in use are posted on the entry sheet and this remains on the locker room wall until after the event. The pro will also advise but its white unless otherwise informed. However it is still your responsibility to check the comp rules and ensure the card is correctly marked and signed. For future reference I'd tick the tee box everytime now and let them get on with it from there.
 

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It seems really petty to D.Q. someone for not indicating the tees used during a comp, it is after all stupid to assume that someone playing with other members would use the yellows whilst the rest of the fourball used the whites. I have been D.Q ed for not putting my start number on the card. What difference could that possibly make, the score was correct and signed for, the date correct, handicap etc.No need to take someones prize away for something that trivial surely?
 

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As mentioned on another thread it appears there was a guy D/Q'd at my club over the weekend for not putting the time on. Seems very petty

Especiallty in light of the fact that I would imagine it is very rare for a club to advertise exactly what information the committee wanted on the card. If they said you had to put the time, tees and colour of underwear, then fair enough if you don't. Otherwise, take the score, handicap and signature, mark 'em, publish and don't whine.
 

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It all seems very petty, not only at my place but the OP on here. I can understand if you only put say the stableford points in and not the gross scores or failed to sign or something similar that may warrant a D/Q. At the end of the day its for a trophy and your name on a board at most not a major. We all enter these events for a game of golf with a nice competitive edge, not to sit some O level exam as well.

If a H/C really can't decipher a score on a card then fair play there is a case but where everything is where it should be and signed and counter-signed then come on guys use a little bit of common.

Let me add a note to that and say that competition secretary/handicap secretary is a thankless and probably soul destroying job that requires tact, diplomacy and patience. I couldn't do it and respect those at every club that do. I'm not belittling their efforts in any shape but just asking for a common sense approach
 

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I was under the impression that indicating the tees used was only really of any relevance to supplementary rounds and to cards submitted from another course.
 
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