Ryder Cup 2025 - All matters

[Orikoru]

Good stats @Orikoru Always interesting to see that type of thing, puts some of it into perspective. I didn't see any player choke yesterday, they were just beaten by better players, by the finest of margins on the day. When BDC came back against Fitzpatrick, he just played ridiculously well, holed every putt. Not a lot you can do about that. Fair play to Fitz for holding on on the last hole, could easily have caved.

I'm just grateful that the USA once again made an absolute horlicks of team golf on Friday and Saturday.

I don't think we have anyone over in the US. It would be interesting to know how Bradley is being viewed over there. Does the Sunday comeback save him or does the course set up, his choice, and the Friday / Saturday showing leave him open to pelters still?

The way I see it, all the stuff that a captain does he seemed to get wrong - i.e. the course set-up and choice of pairings. Although I think the course set-up thing is probably overplayed because it's the same for everybody. But some of his pairing choices were baffling. When you get to singles, that's basically the players left to their own devices, and they proved that they are in fact very good players (which we knew anyway) - but surely that adds weight to theory that Bradley cocked up the pairs? I think the captain has least impact on the singles matches, put it that way.

 

[Backache]

I still reckon that when the MC on the first tee was getting the chants going, and specifically shouting "f u Rory", then it immediately sends the meddage to fans that this sort of support is not only acceptable, but desirable. I can imagine drunk and/or obnoxious fans going to town on that, or even impressionable kids finding it fantastic that they have excuse to shout naughy words at players. It did sem that things were much worse on the Saturday, the day the MC started these chants.

Totally agree, they are employed by the home organisers and to think that encouraging abusive profanities is acceptable is absolutely appalling . In a large crowd where drink is taken some poor behaviour is if not excusable at least difficult to avoid by the organisers but this disgraces the American organisation.

 

[Swango1980]

First twelve points were 3-and-a-half to 8-and-a-half.
Last twelve points were 8-and-a-half to 3-and-a-half.

Perhaps the match was won with the 3 wins for Europe on Saturday afternoon?
That was Fitzpatrick and Hatton at the end of that session. And they added another point between them for Europe on Sunday. And Europe won by those two points?

Edge of the seat stuff near the end on Sunday always makes it memorable, though.

I suspect you're reading a bit much into it. In the end, Europe won because of the importance of every point earned. Although if we want to attach more to any particular point, then for me it still has to be Abergs point in the singles. It was pretty much the only thing that was giving us European fans any hope whatsoever, in a general feeling of despair. And the other European players will have seen that blue on the board, and know that if they can just pick up a few extra halves at least, they can still get over the line.

I don't even want to imagine how I'd have been feeling if Aberg was also getting beaten going into the last few holes.

 

[Voyager EMH]

Lowry 2-down with 5 to play.

And three perfect shots on the 18th.
He was focussed.
Superb.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1972590086819856796

 

[Tashyboy]

Shouting ‘get in the water’ is slightly different to shouting disgusting abuse at a player’s wife, chucking beer at her and the official MC getting a stand full of fans to chant ‘f*ck you Rory’. I mean, I could go on…

The odd thing about that MC encouraging the crowd to verbally abuse Rory. It was not to long ago the “ Me Too” movement was up in arms about abuse to women. And rightly so. If that was directed from A bloke to a woman. Social media would be in meltdown.

 

[Depreston]

The odd thing about that MC encouraging the crowd to verbally abuse Rory. It was not to long ago the “ Me Too” movement was up in arms about abuse to women. And rightly so. If that was directed from A bloke to a woman. Social media would be in meltdown.

That’s an absolutely bizarre take that mind you

some jump in logic

 

[Arthur Wedge]

The odd thing about that MC encouraging the crowd to verbally abuse Rory. It was not to long ago the “ Me Too” movement was up in arms about abuse to women. And rightly so. If that was directed from A bloke to a woman. Social media would be in meltdown.

Not sure how you have managed to get it around to some reverse sexism

 

[Swango1980]

The odd thing about that MC encouraging the crowd to verbally abuse Rory. It was not to long ago the “ Me Too” movement was up in arms about abuse to women. And rightly so. If that was directed from A bloke to a woman. Social media would be in meltdown.

That's a whole new topic to be fair.

Although you have a point, in that when the next Solheim Cup occurs, there is not a chance in hell that I can imagine a male MC would get away with starting an "f u Charley Hull" chant. Social norms change quickly in this day and age, but it would be frightening if that became accepted as "tolerable" in 2026

 

[Orikoru]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1972447111506776570

 

[Hobbit]

Not saying it’s acceptable, but it’s a completely different ball park to what went on this weekend. If all that was being said was things like ‘you suck… get in the bunker…you’re a choker’ AFTER the shot had been played, in amongst supporting their own players, we wouldn’t be talking about the fans.

For me, over the line is quite simply that. However, a “get in the water” should be met with “cool it.” What we saw on Saturday & Sunday should be met with eject from the course.

A bit like speeding. 5 mph over, a speed awareness course. 50 mph over the line, a big fine & a potential ban.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

That was an utterly mental last couple of hours...and I really got caught up in the excitement...but...but...I have concerns for the Ryder Cup.

It is IMO becoming way too over-hyped and that is, at least in part, I feel to blame for the behaviour of some fans...in this instance the crossing-the-line was US fans, but I'm not a fan over the over-the-top (IMO) support provided by Europe's fans...it's only time.

And in general I fear that the 'popularity' of the Ryder Cup both within and outwith the golfing community - and hence it's popularity with the broadcasters, will find that in the not too distant future the Ryder Cup will begin to enjoy it's popularity so much that it starts to eat itself.

I know that this sounds quite negative - but these thoughts are simply borne out feelings of love I feel for the competition - because I feel my love diminishing despite the excitement the golf can deliver - as it did these last three days.

 

[AmandaJR]

Who knew Justin was the first man on the dancefloor at a party?! Arise Sir Justin

 

[Arthur Wedge]

That was an utterly mental last couple of hours...and I really got caught up in the excitement...but...but...I have concerns for the Ryder Cup.

It is IMO becoming way too over-hyped and that is, at least in part, I feel to blame for the behaviour of some fans...in this instance the crossing-the-line was US fans, but I'm not a fan over the over-the-top (IMO) support provided by Europe's fans...it's only time.

And in general I fear that the 'popularity' of the Ryder Cup both within and outwith the golfing community - and hence it's popularity with the broadcasters, will find that in the not too distant future the Ryder Cup will begin to enjoy it's popularity so much that it starts to eati itself.

I know that this sounds quite negative - but these thoughts are simply borne out feelings of love I feel for the competition - because I feel my love diminishing despite the excitement the golf can deliver - as it did these last three days.

Don’t think we need to overreact

It’s very two years and over three days an individual event becomes a team event where golf fans can get behind a team - within days it’s forgotten about on the main and the sport becomes individual

A media company will hype every single event up - they are trying to gain interest

There will always be individuals at events that go over the top - it’s a shame in this case there were a good number of them

But it didn’t spoil it for the players and you only have to see the emotion on both sets of players to see what the event means

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Don’t think we need to overreact

It’s very two years and over three days an individual event becomes a team event where golf fans can get behind a team - within days it’s forgotten about on the main and the sport becomes individual

A media company will hype every single event up - they are trying to gain interest

There will always be individuals at events that go over the top - it’s a shame in this case there were a good number of them

But it didn’t spoil it for the players and you only have to see the emotion on both sets of players to see what the event means

Get all of that - but it doesn't take from my concerns about the popularity of the event eventually bringing around it's demise.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Get all of that - but it doesn't take from my concerns about the popularity of the event eventually bringing around it's demise.

An event that gets popular gets stronger , there is no demise

 

[Brian 222]

Bethpage seems to be getting off scot free.
They couldn't see any of this coming?

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Bethpage seems to be getting off scot free.
They couldn't see any of this coming?

It seems it’s accepted by those in the US that fans in New York act like that in sports events

 

[Burnsey]

Bethpage seems to be getting off scot free.
They couldn't see any of this coming?

They handed over to the organisers to sell tickets, police presence was strong, course was well laid out etc etc.

What can anyone do in respect of the type of attendee?

Not the courses fault.

 

[Red devil]

Be in Str

Who knew Justin was the first man on the dancefloor at a party?! Arise Sir Justin

Be on Strictly next year