Rules

[softhands]

Playing in a comp at the weekend and this happened. A fellow competitor marked his ball on the green and then removed his marker leaving his ball ready to put. He never addressed the ball but dropped his club by accident and his ball moved. Got the ruling from the pro prior to signing the card but would like a second opinion.

 

[freddielong]

Hi and welcome

For me as he didn't do it playing a stroke or after he addressed the ball he must replace it without penalty

 

[rosecott]

1 stroke penalty under rule 18-2a

 

[USER1999]

Yep, one stroke penalty and ball must be replaced. Ball moved by player or players equipment type rule.

 

[cirrus]

generally,when the ball is in play,if you accidentally cause your ball to move,lift it when not permitted or it moves after you have addressed it,add a penalty stroke and replace your ball. rule 18-2a.However if someone else moves your ball at rset or it is moved by another ball,replace it without penalty to you.....

Quote taken from R&A Rules....

 

[stevelev]

As far as I know it is replaced under no penatly as it ewas not addressed.

But being a 24 handicapper, what do I know

 

[bobmac]

As far as I know it is replaced under no penatly as it ewas not addressed.

But being a 24 handicapper, what do I know

I guess you don't know rule 18 2/a

http://www.randa.org/en/Rules-and-Amateu...mp;subRuleNum=2

 

[palindromicbob]

If Poulter can get a penalty against him for accidentally dropping his ball on the marker then that should sum up the ruling for this case.

1 stroke penalty for moving a ball at rest. Must then be replaced. (rule: 18-2a)

If he then failed to replace and played the ball after the movement then there is an additional 2 stroke penalty (rule: 20-7c)

Different if he moved the ball or marker during the direct process of marking or replacing, e.g your thumb pushes the ball when placing the marker. Then you can replace without penalty. (Rule: 20-1)

This rule is worth knowing. I have had a 1 stroke penalty applied to me when I accidentally moved the ball while marking it but didn't know the rule at this time.

 

[stevelev]

As far as I know it is replaced under no penatly as it ewas not addressed.

But being a 24 handicapper, what do I know

I guess you don't know rule 18 2/a

http://www.randa.org/en/Rules-and-Amateu...mp;subRuleNum=2

Told you I didn't have a clue.

 

[viscount17]

1 stroke penalty for moving a ball at rest. Must then be replaced. (rule: 18-2a)

If he then failed to replace and played the ball after the movement then there is an additional 2 stroke penalty (rule: 20-7c)

aren't these either/or not both.

so 18-2a but if you fail to comply then it's 20-7c

 

[palindromicbob]

1 stroke penalty for moving a ball at rest. Must then be replaced. (rule: 18-2a)

If he then failed to replace and played the ball after the movement then there is an additional 2 stroke penalty (rule: 20-7c)

aren't these either/or not both.

so 18-2a but if you fail to comply then it's 20-7c

Sorry you are right. Rule 20-7c doesn't actually come into it at all (forgot the principle that in most cases one ruling will dictate the outcome for a situation). Failure to comply with 18-2a is a 2 stroke penalty.

So 1 stroke for the movement. 2 if he didn't replace and continued to play.

3 if you want to be really sadistic like I was at first

Now what was the outcome in the op situation!

My head feels like it is going to pop.