Roll Back Discussion

[sweaty sock]

My opinion is growing the rough is missing the point. Holes like the 18th at st andrews, the current distance make this a 3 wood par 3, even if you manufactured a 5 yard wide fairway with 2 foor rough, its still not playing anything like how it was (i.e an easy drive, and a wedge off a hilly lie to a hard slopey green). If you just grow the rough, the game becomes even more one dimensional. Drive as far as you can, hack it near the green....

 

[Lord Tyrion]

What you're saying doesn't make sense. Why is any of that an incentive for anyone to voluntarily give up distance vs their fellow competitors? It just sounds like you're saying you wish they would.

Whilst they love extra distance they also love ball control particularly from 8 iron in. To get the level of control they want, distance, spin etc, they need to know what the ball will do. If they are changing to two entirely different balls they will not get familiar enough with it to trust. They will choose one and stick with it, imo.

 

[Mel Smooth]

My opinion is growing the rough is missing the point. Holes like the 18th at st andrews, the current distance make this a 3 wood par 3, even if you manufactured a 5 yard wide fairway with 2 foor rough, its still not playing anything like how it was (i.e an easy drive, and a wedge off a hilly lie to a hard slopey green). If you just grow the rough, the game becomes even more one dimensional. Drive as far as you can, hack it near the green....

Does it matter if it's a 3 wood par 3 for the pros? (Not that it really is) I honestly don't get the logic of the argument that it's not playing how it was designed.

 

[Sand Trapped]

Agree with Rory's interview with NLU in that the game is now purely bomb and gouge. Haven't seen mid-long irons into par 4s on a regular basis in a long time. Ripping back wedges gets a little boring (and is frankly, pretty unrelatable for us amateurs).

 

[Crow]

As this thread seems to be all about repeating things (well, nearly all threads are these days):


"We want a wound balata ball!"

"We want a wound balata ball!"

"We want a wound balata ball!"

"We want a wound balata ball!"

(Or at least a ball with those characteristics)

It would increase the enjoyment of every golfer, from beginner to Pro, from junior to senior, both male and female.

Most golfers have never even hit one so don't knock it.

 

[clubchamp98]

As this thread seems to be all about repeating things (well, nearly all threads are these days):


"We want a wound balata ball!"

"We want a wound balata ball!"

"We want a wound balata ball!"

"We want a wound balata ball!"

(Or at least a ball with those characteristics)

It would increase the enjoyment of every golfer, from beginner to Pro, from junior to senior, both male and female.

Most golfers have never even hit one so don't knock it.

I have and you could slice or hook the Horlicks off them.
one misshit and it’s a gonna.
modern grooves in wedges would rip them to shreds.

apart from that they were great and would show who’s the best ball strikers.
a harder ball does require less skill.

 

[Crow]

I have and you could slice or hook the Horlicks off them.
one misshit and it’s a gonna.
modern grooves in wedges would rip them to shreds.

apart from that they were great and would show who’s the best ball strikers.
a harder ball does require less skill.

I did add or ball "with those characteristics" which is the only way it's ever going to happen as making a wound ball is expensive.


Here's another idea, and this one really has some mileage.

A lot of suggestions seem to have been aimed at discouraging Pros to take driver from the tee.
Well what about putting a fence or net in front of the tee so that they have to take a club with more loft to get over it?

Hell Yeah!

 

[LincolnShep]

I did add or ball "with those characteristics" which is the only way it's ever going to happen as making a wound ball is expensive.


Here's another idea, and this one really has some mileage.

A lot of suggestions seem to have been aimed at discouraging Pros to take driver from the tee.
Well what about putting a fence or net in front of the tee so that they have to take a club with more loft to get over it?

Hell Yeah!

Or a little windmill that they have to hit it through.

 

[IanM]

Still an advocate of the need to negotiate the blades of a windmill!

Golf is one of the few sports where pros turn up with their own ball

 

[IanM]

Snap!

 

[Bdill93]

I did add or ball "with those characteristics" which is the only way it's ever going to happen as making a wound ball is expensive.


Here's another idea, and this one really has some mileage.

A lot of suggestions seem to have been aimed at discouraging Pros to take driver from the tee.
Well what about putting a fence or net in front of the tee so that they have to take a club with more loft to get over it?

Hell Yeah!

How about 4 randomly selected golfers get given an exploding ball totally at random on day 1 of any event, if they're lucky enough to see their ball explode on the first tee of day 1 they automatically qualify to play Sunday equal with the leader at the start of the day!

THE DRAMA

 

[clubchamp98]

I did add or ball "with those characteristics" which is the only way it's ever going to happen as making a wound ball is expensive.


Here's another idea, and this one really has some mileage.

A lot of suggestions seem to have been aimed at discouraging Pros to take driver from the tee.
Well what about putting a fence or net in front of the tee so that they have to take a club with more loft to get over it?

Hell Yeah!

Yes they could lengthen the course by using someone back garden.

 

[IanM]

How about 4 randomly selected golfers get given an exploding ball totally at random on day 1 of any event, if they're lucky enough to see their ball explode on the first tee of day 1 they automatically qualify to play Sunday equal with the leader at the start of the day!

THE DRAMA

I thought LIV were already doing this?

 

[Bdill93]

I thought LIV were already doing this?

I've not seen any balls explode!

 

[Golfnut1957]

My opinion is growing the rough is missing the point. Holes like the 18th at st andrews, the current distance make this a 3 wood par 3, even if you manufactured a 5 yard wide fairway with 2 foor rough, its still not playing anything like how it was (i.e an easy drive, and a wedge off a hilly lie to a hard slopey green). If you just grow the rough, the game becomes even more one dimensional. Drive as far as you can, hack it near the green....

You mean like this?

 

[sweaty sock]

You mean like this?

So theres no problem then and golfs as good as ever?

 

[Crow]

You mean like this?

This was such a momentous event that it's still talked about decades later.
(And he took his jumper off to enable it)

 

[Alan Clifford]

i’m struggling to see your point here?

I say growing the rough impacts recreational golfers.
you say you disagree, and that rough impacts the recreational golfer.

Well, I got the sense that you think it shouldn't impact recreational golfers whereas I think it should.

 

[Alan Clifford]

According to Rory, if there is a rolled back ball and it is used in majors (which, at least 2 of them will definitely be), he will just use the rolled back version all the time rather than trying to adjust

McIlroy Supports Governing Bodies' Distance Proposal | No Laying Up

Also worth a read here:
The Loudest Voice in the Conversation | No Laying Up

interesting. Rory is such a pgatour fanboy in words but apparently not in his intended actions.

 

[Deleted member 29109]

interesting. Rory is such a pgatour fanboy in words but apparently not in his intended actions.

What?