clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Yes no percentages mentioned
Roll Back Discussion
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clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
I wonder if they will print a list of balls that will still conform ?
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Without doubt.....we all know that shots from the middle have been going roughly the same distance for some time now.
The progress has all been on off centre strikes that , in many cases, can be almost as efficient as centred ones
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
I'd be surprised if they don't but it'll be much nearer the time..
6 years is a long time in ball R&D.
D
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You worried your stash of balls that may be getting "illegal" will still be around by 2030?
I like that I will now be 90yds behind Rory off the tee instead of 100yds. I'm coming to get him 
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Good attitude LTI like that I will now be 90yds behind Rory off the tee instead of 100yds. I'm coming to get him
D
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I was thinking earlier when the ban comes in what exactly happens to all the old balls currently out there?
Say the ban is 2026 they must have to produce so many new balls for the pros and the shops
What happens to all the ones in people's garages etc and on the courses
Do they get binned ?
We are protecting the courses but creating a bit of environmental waste no?
Say the ban is 2026 they must have to produce so many new balls for the pros and the shops
What happens to all the ones in people's garages etc and on the courses
Do they get binned ?
We are protecting the courses but creating a bit of environmental waste no?
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Unless you happen to use one of the 30% of balls that may still conform.. then no change I guess? Would be nice to see a list of which balls they are, I might switch early and get used to them.
I'm not quite getting my head around the fact that they will mess with balls to stop the big boys hitting them further but the difference to us is minimal. How is that happening? How is my slap unaffected but their smoosh is reigned in?
If the ball I use is unaffected, let's say low / mid range product, why would a pro not use the same one? Is that because they want the added control of spin that their ball gives them?
Can anyone explain in simply terms?
If the ball I use is unaffected, let's say low / mid range product, why would a pro not use the same one? Is that because they want the added control of spin that their ball gives them?
Can anyone explain in simply terms?
D
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Unless you happen to use one of the 30% of balls that may still conform.. then no change I guess? Would be nice to see a list of which balls they are, I might switch early and get used to them.
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Keep your eyes peeled here...in about 4 years time
D-S
Well-known member
Does this mean that GolfWRX forumers are going to lose over 20 yards?
D-S
Well-known member
I think I must be using some of those 30% balls as I'm struggling to hit it much over 317 yards these days.
GB72
Money List Winner
Not sure I am convinced that, given the head start they have before the rules come in, the manufacturers will not have developed a way to negate any loss in distance. I would be fairly convinced that, as they have known that this is coming, they are not already well on the way down that route.
The Fader
Newbie
So, ALL golfers will be affected detrimentally to an as yet unknown and untested % just to accommodate the 0.001% of mainly professional golfers who genuinely hit it 300+ yards?
Talk about a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
Aiming for a roll back of 15 yards in the professional game in 5 years time is not worth it. Clubhead and shaft technology and extra visits to the gym will negate those 15 yards without a doubt.
If the powers that be really want to protect the game and bring a better balance between absolute distance v. accuracy and skill - make inaccurate distance punitive by setting up the 0.001% of courses that host professional golf with tighter fairways and longer rough.
Honestly how many courses are overpowered by amateur golfers in the monthly medal? You only have to read the many threads on here about how badly done to low handicappers are to know that.
Talk about a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
Aiming for a roll back of 15 yards in the professional game in 5 years time is not worth it. Clubhead and shaft technology and extra visits to the gym will negate those 15 yards without a doubt.
If the powers that be really want to protect the game and bring a better balance between absolute distance v. accuracy and skill - make inaccurate distance punitive by setting up the 0.001% of courses that host professional golf with tighter fairways and longer rough.
Honestly how many courses are overpowered by amateur golfers in the monthly medal? You only have to read the many threads on here about how badly done to low handicappers are to know that.
RichA
Well-known member
Compression looks like a decent way of doing it.
From looking at this... https://www.todays-golfer.com/equipment/best/golf-ball-robot-test-2023/ most balls go a similar distance for slow and medium speed swingers. For faster swing speeds, there's a distance drop off with softer balls. Harder balls go further.
I know you played(ed) cricket. Think of the reaction of a proper cricket ball coming off a bat compared to the softer ones that younger kids use.
A tapped proper ball goes nowhere but a big hit is out of the ground.
Juniors balls bounce off the bat pretty well with even a gentle tap but a massive slog struggles to reach the boundary even on a reduced size pitch.
Far from a perfect analogy, but a similar principle.
D
Deleted member 15717
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Terrible argument.
there is a sustainability aspect at play. Growing rough takes more water, more fertiliser. It’s also not just the PGA tour that would be affected. all courses on all tours around the world. All with varying growing seasons and weather.
Not to mention the detriment to the amateur golfers who then get affected by longer rough whilst it grows that they may not have the power to get out of.
it also provides more advantage to the long hitters who can just bomb it and then hit shorter clubs in anyway
nickjdavis
Head Pro
just read that article by Fergus Bissett.."Why Universal Golf Ball Rollback Is Like Using A Wrecking Ball To Crush An Ant"....
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My low handicap is principally protected by the fact I can hit the ball a good distance off the tee and so reach long par-4s and the odd par-5 in two. My short game is terrible, so I need to be up there and putting to have a chance of regularly making pars, (the occasional birdie.) If I’m going to reach a % fewer greens in regulation or better, I can only see my scores going up.
There are a couple of par-5s at my club that measure around the 520-yard mark. I can just about reach them in two with a Sunday best drive of 285 and an approach with a fairway wood of 235… Take 4% off my drive, as that’s roughly what it looks like I will be losing as per 2030... (so now 274) and off my second (now 226) – I'll be 20 yards short… Rather than putting for eagle, I’ll face a delicate pitch (not my strength) and will be struggling for par! This change will not be good news for me, I can tell you that for a fact Rory.
I’m sure, I’m not alone – How many of us can occasionally scrape it onto the front edge of that short par-4 at our home club? Maybe not anymore… That is going to hamper my enjoyment of golf.
What a pathetic whinge bag.
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My low handicap is principally protected by the fact I can hit the ball a good distance off the tee and so reach long par-4s and the odd par-5 in two. My short game is terrible, so I need to be up there and putting to have a chance of regularly making pars, (the occasional birdie.) If I’m going to reach a % fewer greens in regulation or better, I can only see my scores going up.
There are a couple of par-5s at my club that measure around the 520-yard mark. I can just about reach them in two with a Sunday best drive of 285 and an approach with a fairway wood of 235… Take 4% off my drive, as that’s roughly what it looks like I will be losing as per 2030... (so now 274) and off my second (now 226) – I'll be 20 yards short… Rather than putting for eagle, I’ll face a delicate pitch (not my strength) and will be struggling for par! This change will not be good news for me, I can tell you that for a fact Rory.
I’m sure, I’m not alone – How many of us can occasionally scrape it onto the front edge of that short par-4 at our home club? Maybe not anymore… That is going to hamper my enjoyment of golf.
What a pathetic whinge bag.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Get better at the short game....simples....
One thing in golf that really does annoy me is people who moan when they can't reach a par 5 in 2 shots....welcome to the Real world.
