HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
Childish retort as always. Just no point continuing the discussion. I've made my views clear and others disagree. Why flog the matter to death. Thought you were better than that. Clearly not
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Childish retort as always. Just no point continuing the discussion. I've made my views clear and others disagree. Why flog the matter to death. Thought you were better than that. Clearly not
Smiffy
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pack it in or ill knock yer heads together 
Happy New Year,
How about a new Year truce
Happy New Year,
How about a new Year truce
Three
Tour Rookie
Homer you're missing the point.
Golfers off the white tees have a carry of what looks like 175 yards. IF THEY CAN'T DO THAT THEY SIMPLY USE COURSE MANAGEMENT AND LAY UP.
Like I said previously, anyone who can't reach probably gets a shot, so an iron, a pitch and 2 putts gives them a nett par, that's golf.
There's a funky par 5 I play annually that has an island landing area for the 2nd shot. This year I couldn't get over the water to the island for my 2nd shot, so I played a wedge then a hybrid.
It doesn't make it a bad hole, I just had to use good course management to negotiate it.
Golfers off the white tees have a carry of what looks like 175 yards. IF THEY CAN'T DO THAT THEY SIMPLY USE COURSE MANAGEMENT AND LAY UP.
Like I said previously, anyone who can't reach probably gets a shot, so an iron, a pitch and 2 putts gives them a nett par, that's golf.
There's a funky par 5 I play annually that has an island landing area for the 2nd shot. This year I couldn't get over the water to the island for my 2nd shot, so I played a wedge then a hybrid.
It doesn't make it a bad hole, I just had to use good course management to negotiate it.
woody69
Journeyman Pro
Isn't the point that there isn't anywhere to lay up, so shot or no shot you have no option other than attempt a shot you can't complete.
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
I agree but in this instance, all the ground before the lake is "semi-rough" at best and there is no guarantee the player will get a decent lie. Can you imagine how tricky a forty yard pitch over water with a ball sitting down in the grass is for most players, especially playing a second already into a par three?
Three
Tour Rookie
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cA3CiThBxBM
I can't really see the problem with laying up into semi rough. For a lot of golfers it would be preferable playing a pitch over water from the semi rather than a tight cut fairway.
I can't really see the problem with laying up into semi rough. For a lot of golfers it would be preferable playing a pitch over water from the semi rather than a tight cut fairway.
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Robobum
Money List Winner
Absolutely.
The red tee says 120yds on the card, so approx 105yds carry. Wedge it down there, they can even prefer their lie for the next few months
Or is 105yd carry too exclusive?
Birchy
Money List Winner
Absolutely.
The red tee says 120yds on the card, so approx 105yds carry. Wedge it down there, they can even prefer their lie for the next few months
Or is 105yd carry too exclusive?
What about the Sunday afternoon toddlers swindle?
They will be upset if they cant join in the competitions from the back tees.
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
Ive watched the video. there is ample room for a lay up. a 30 yard pitch from semi rough is one of the most common shots in golf.
Looks a lovely hole. Rewards the brave, competent and fortuitous.
Looks a lovely hole. Rewards the brave, competent and fortuitous.
ruff-driver
Journeyman Pro
Maybe they need to build a 'bale out island'
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
Couldn't they just leave a copy of "Positive Golf Thinking" on the tee so that the really bad golfers have at least got something to allay their fears? Surely after reading the nuggets of information in there they will attempt it with renewed vigour.
I'd not seen the video before and I agree with Gary, the pitch shot from semi rough looks the play if you can't carry, also I was expecting a right old dog track reading some of the comments but it looks pretty good, and the green was a good indicator of that.
No such lay-up opportunity on the 18th at the Arden, anything less than 170yds carry off the whites (202yds) and your wet 💦⛳️
No such lay-up opportunity on the 18th at the Arden, anything less than 170yds carry off the whites (202yds) and your wet 💦⛳️
Siren
Tour Rookie
All this arguing over a little forum 7 iron
chrisd
Major Champion
The 17th at Chart Hills is an island green to, modelled on Sawgrass I believe. It's shorter than the one mentioned and there is a drop zone but it is, for obvious reasons the signature hole
There's an island green at West Midlands also, never played it or seen it though, very mixed reviews of the course keeps me slightly away.
faroyon
Medal Winner
If you have played it, why are you unaware of the drop zone short of the lake?
faroyon
Medal Winner
If you have played it, why are you unaware of the drop zone short of the lake?
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
Why do you feel the need to repeat the point? Of course I'm aware of the drop zone but it wasn't the point I was making. If you opt to lay up, the grass is semi-rough and leaves a tricky pitch from an unpredictable lie. If you insist on bringing the DZ into the equation that means you're now playing three and again from it's location, it leaves less than a full shot (not one many handicap golfers relish) and you are now trying that playing three and still over water. If I was going to provide a solution it would be to make the approach to the water a mown area, same length as the fairway where the lie would be more predicatible and there would be a chance to pick aand clean in winter
