R&A - Good Deal or Greedy

Ok. Straight question. Radio? Sky? Or anfield. Where was your opinion on today's game formed?

I haven't seen the full game today to form an opinion and no idea what it has to do with a thread about R&A
 
The Open will only be available to those willing and ABLE to pay the significant monthly fees required for SKY. how does that help break down old images of golf and make it inclusive! How many of today's top golfers started after watching Seve, Faldo and the like on the BBC?
 
All of what you say is true. And your opinion of golf coverage has been documented (you don't rate sky). But to suggest non golf fans can't find it isn't really true. People found it previously by scrolling through 4 channels.

Are you suggesting people watch every channel hey have in their sky package? My old dear mother in law doesn't like sport at all but has the complete package. So her son could be at home. Footy finishes and he flicks through and sees the golf.

I i agree not everyone will see it. But it being on terrestrial imo hasn't exactky seen golf thrive. There are bigger issues than who will be showing ONE competition a year. The Ryder cup is rumoured to be one of the most watch sporting events in the world. What channel is it watched on? So plenty we it and not all of them pick up clubs.

More people watch that "one" competition - the biggest golf comp in the world - in the UK than watched the Ryder Cup if stats on Twitter today are correct - 4.5 million watched Rory's final round this year

Non golf fans without sky will no longer ever watch golf - they won't pay for sky , they won't go searching through websites to watch it - they flick it on on BBC and watch the final day - because it's easy and convinient to do
 
All of what you say is true. And your opinion of golf coverage has been documented (you don't rate sky). But to suggest non golf fans can't find it isn't really true. People found it previously by scrolling through 4 channels.

Are you suggesting people watch every channel hey have in their sky package? My old dear mother in law doesn't like sport at all but has the complete package. So her son could be at home. Footy finishes and he flicks through and sees the golf.

I i agree not everyone will see it. But it being on terrestrial imo hasn't exactky seen golf thrive. There are bigger issues than who will be showing ONE competition a year. The Ryder cup is rumoured to be one of the most watch sporting events in the world. What channel is it watched on? So plenty we it and not all of them pick up clubs.

How many watch it in the UK? Cos the number of people watching it in other countries is irrelevant to a discussion about the beeb not showing the Open in this country. Of course its well watched, there's likely to be millions watching in the States. But they wont be concerned if the beeb stop showing the Open.
 
The Open will only be available to those willing and ABLE to pay the significant monthly fees required for SKY. how does that help break down old images of golf and make it inclusive! How many of today's top golfers started after watching Seve, Faldo and the like on the BBC?

And how many have been inspired by the blanket coverage of woods??

who inspired seve? Was that all the tv coverage?
 
The Open will only be available to those willing and ABLE to pay the significant monthly fees required for SKY. how does that help break down old images of golf and make it inclusive! How many of today's top golfers started after watching Seve, Faldo and the like on the BBC?

Indeed. How many would take up the game now if they saw Rory tearing it up on a regular basis?
 
My original point was simply about everyone being able to view sport if they wish. Which was clear enough in my first point.

But that's not the point - you clearly miss the point - with it on terrestrial TV it was easy for people to watch - they didn't have to pay just to watch it , they didn't have to go onto theur laptop to watch a rubbish grainy illegal stream - it was there for "EVERYONE" at the press of one button with no additional cost - that has no gone along with all those casual viewers that might take the game up
 
And how many have been inspired by the blanket coverage of woods??

who inspired seve? Was that all the tv coverage?

From what i remember it was his uncle. But Seve wasnt brought up in England watching the Open on the beeb. That's what this discussion is about. And didnt Faldo take up golf after watching Nicklaus at the Masters?
 
Coverage of last years open was a farce. Pathetic. A waste of time.

The first two days I was working. I get home, coverage has ended for the day. Fine. I'll watch the highlights. Oh, they aren't showing any. Not until 01.30 in the morning anyway. Wow, thanks, I'll give it a miss.

The weekend was fine, but again, no highlights. I was around to watch the pm players. I saw seagulls, kids eating ice creams, a ship, which appeared to be floating in the sky, any thing other than golf really.

Ok, no adverts though.
 
Coverage of last years open was a farce. Pathetic. A waste of time.

The first two days I was working. I get home, coverage has ended for the day. Fine. I'll watch the highlights. Oh, they aren't showing any. Not until 01.30 in the morning anyway. Wow, thanks, I'll give it a miss.

The weekend was fine, but again, no highlights. I was around to watch the pm players. I saw seagulls, kids eating ice creams, a ship, which appeared to be floating in the sky, any thing other than golf really.

Ok, no adverts though.


Isnt the Open on from 9 in the morning until nearly 9 at night? They cant show golf ad infinitum, if you missed the near 12 hours of coverage, well that's life.

As for the non-golf shots, surely you've got to mix it up when you're on for almost half of the day.
 
But that's not the point - you clearly miss the point - with it on terrestrial TV it was easy for people to watch - they didn't have to pay just to watch it , they didn't have to go onto theur laptop to watch a rubbish grainy illegal stream - it was there for "EVERYONE" at the press of one button with no additional cost - that has no gone along with all those casual viewers that might take the game up

I don't miss the point at all. I simply don't agree with YOUR point.

But ok, let's go back to that. Only have sports on the bbc. With the budget they put into it, how would you expect the game to progress. The bbc show ONE tournament a year. If the sport is relying on one event a year to inspire future generations then it's in trouble.
 
Isnt the Open on from 9 in the morning until nearly 9 at night? They cant show golf ad infinitum, if you missed the near 12 hours of coverage, well that's life.

As for the non-golf shots, surely you've got to mix it up when you're on for almost half of the day.

Wimbledon?
 
How many watch it in the UK? Cos the number of people watching it in other countries is irrelevant to a discussion about the beeb not showing the Open in this country. Of course its well watched, there's likely to be millions watching in the States. But they wont be concerned if the beeb stop showing the Open.

from what I saw online around 2m. Haven't seen figures for the open, other than the Twitter comment above from Phil.
 
More people watch that "one" competition - the biggest golf comp in the world - in the UK than watched the Ryder Cup if stats on Twitter today are correct - 4.5 million watched Rory's final round this year

Non golf fans without sky will no longer ever watch golf - they won't pay for sky , they won't go searching through websites to watch it - they flick it on on BBC and watch the final day - because it's easy and convinient to do

I guess I'm for a different era than you Phil. Rightly or wrongly, when I talk to people about golf. The even they remember is The Masters. I'm not saying the masters is better. But it's more familiar to non golf fans. As they have seen it lots of times.

as to peope watching it coz it's easy and convenient. People watching it as white noise doesn't help the future of the game.
 
Coverage doesnt start at 9 in the morning.

It runs from 11, until gone 9, and then there's an hours high lights. For pretty near two weeks. On bbc1 and 2.

Why can't highlights of the golf be on bbc3, or bbc4, let alone the main channels, after 9?
 
I guess I'm for a different era than you Phil. Rightly or wrongly, when I talk to people about golf. The even they remember is The Masters. I'm not saying the masters is better. But it's more familiar to non golf fans. As they have seen it lots of times.

as to peope watching it coz it's easy and convenient. People watching it as white noise doesn't help the future of the game.


For how much longer? Coverage has been halved in the last 5 years, it'll probably be none within the next 5.
 
It runs from 11, until gone 9, and then there's an hours high lights. For pretty near two weeks. On bbc1 and 2.

Why can't highlights of the golf be on bbc3, or bbc4, let alone the main channels, after 9?

Yeah but even my mum watches Wimbledon so the beeb can get away with showing more of it without too many people getting the hump.
 
Speaking from my own point of view, I don't particularly want to see all the bells and whistles that Sky adds (for Sky assume Sky, Virgin, BT, etc).
All I want to see is the golf with some decent commentary thrown in by the likes of Ken Brown et al.

I don't want to be forced to have to pay a large amount of cash to Sky to be able to see something that is shown very well as it is at the moment.



And now a simple question - Why do modern day sports coverage deals have to be exclusive and whose idea was this?
Why can't Sky buy a share of the rights and both Sky and the BBC show The Open at the same time to their respective audiences?



I remember when the FA Cup was the sporting event of the year (I'll make no comments as to why that event has faltered) and it was shown on both the BBC and ITV. Nowadays deals have to be exclusive, which racks up the cost to the broadcaster and in turn the poor fools watching it.



And another question, many Sky subscribers moan about having to pay the licencee fee but don't seem put off at having to pay many times than that to watch Sky and the like.
How much is a typical Sky package with the Sports package so that one can watch the golf?
 
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