R&A - Good Deal or Greedy

[HomerJSimpson]

Look at the Ryder Cup. Wall to wall coverage on a dedicated channel so loads of discussion, views, build up, coverage reviews and highlights. In terms of the RC there wasn't a shot missed all day and I see no reason why they wouldn't emulate BBC coverage and start early morning and run into the evening in the first two rounds

 

[Imurg]

Look at the Ryder Cup. Wall to wall coverage on a dedicated channel so loads of discussion, views, build up, coverage reviews and highlights. In terms of the RC there wasn't a shot missed all day and I see no reason why they wouldn't emulate BBC coverage and start early morning and run into the evening in the first two rounds

And they will....
But the vast majority of people won't be able to see it.
The kid down the street won't come home, switch on the box and see Rory launching a 350 harder, won't be enthralled by it and subsequently won't take up the game.

 

[Old Skier]

If the BBC really wanted to keep the golf they could have.

Providing they paid a lot more for it.

 

[matt611]

Just continues my belief that there is far too much money in professional sports

 

[Old Skier]

Just continues my belief that there is far too much money in professional sports

And nothing to do with the genuine sports fan whatever the sport is.

 

[bozza]

And they will....
But the vast majority of people won't be able to see it.
The kid down the street won't come home, switch on the box and see Rory launching a 350 harder, won't be enthralled by it and subsequently won't take up the game.

But what young kid wants to listen to Peter Alliss waffle on about the good old days when he used to knock his balata ball around a course in his tweed plus fours.

Golf needs to drag itself out of the dark ages and I think Sky are helping do that with the coverage they do.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

But what young kid wants to listen to Peter Alliss waffle on about the good old days when he used to knock his balata ball around a course in his tweed plus fours.

Golf needs to drag itself out of the dark ages and I think Sky are helping do that with the coverage they do.

So instead of listening to Allis which is a very small part of the coverage they now watch none of it

Golf going to sky doesn't "drag" it out of the dark ages - it's not in the dark ages to begin with

The only thing sky will do different is things like shot centre etc etc - that does nothing to the game of golf

 

[Imurg]

But what young kid wants to listen to Peter Alliss waffle on about the good old days when he used to knock his balata ball around a course in his tweed plus fours.

Golf needs to drag itself out of the dark ages and I think Sky are helping do that with the coverage they do.

Is that the same kid from up the street.? The one who now won't show any interest in golf because the only time he sees it is on the news when Tiger shoots 82 again...?
Sky can drag golf into the 22nd century if it wants to, its just that not many people will see it.....so what's the point.?

 

[mefromhere]

It would have made far more sense for Sky & BBC to share the coverage for a period. Then the R&A could assess and see the viewing difference between the two channels and the impact it would have on the game. Instead they went forthe quick money which they can say they will put into the grassroots of the game but if there's no roots (kids playing) then what's the point ?

 

[blackpuddinmonster]

 

[Tashyboy]

Why, why, why,
im sure the coverage will be better than on BBC (like F1) but to a limited audience. And how long before you get charged to watch the open on Sky.

 

[Papas1982]

Maybe I lived in a strange household. But in the summer when I came home from schoo the last thing I wanted to do was put the tv on. I went out and played sports. I've had sky as long as I can rememember. But didn't play a sport just because it was on tv. The people that play tennis around Wimbledon, or golf around the open, how many stick around?

Everywhere we look there are adds for fitness this, or diet that. I think people are becoming lazier, you could play sports live throughout the day at some schools and the kids would still just go home and veg out on the Xbox.

to blame sky for the Demise of sports is imo false. If I could think of one factor it would be computers. But even then the games are branded with players and the people who buy them want to play as their favourite clubs/players (who they've likely seen on tv).

Golf can be quite an exclusive club. I'm not against that. But, I'd imagine most people that can afford to play golf regularly can afford sky too. So if you're a parent and honestly think the only reason your child won't pick the game up is because they won't see it, get sky? Or stream it and show them. Or better still, take them along with you.

I dont undertand why it's always someone else's fault?

 

[bozza]

Maybe I lived in a strange household. But in the summer when I came home from schoo the last thing I wanted to do was put the tv on. I went out and played sports. I've had sky as long as I can rememember. But didn't play a sport just because it was on tv. The people that play tennis around Wimbledon, or golf around the open, how many stick around?

Everywhere we look there are adds for fitness this, or diet that. I think people are becoming lazier, you could play sports live throughout the day at some schools and the kids would still just go home and veg out on the Xbox.

to blame sky for the Demise of sports is imo false. If I could think of one factor it would be computers. But even then the games are branded with players and the people who buy them want to play as their favourite clubs/players (who they've likely seen on tv).

Golf can be quite an exclusive club. I'm not against that. But, I'd imagine most people that can afford to play golf regularly can afford sky too. So if you're a parent and honestly think the only reason your child won't pick the game up is because they won't see it, get sky? Or stream it and show them. Or better still, take them along with you.

I dont undertand why it's always someone else's fault?

Well said.

You just know if golf club memberships fall over the next 5-10 years it will all be Sky's fault for stealing the Open from the BBC.

 

[bozza]

Is that the same kid from up the street.? The one who now won't show any interest in golf because the only time he sees it is on the news when Tiger shoots 82 again...?
Sky can drag golf into the 22nd century if it wants to, its just that not many people will see it.....so what's the point.?

Is that the same kid that Supports Man Utd and gets his parents to buy the latest strip/boots because his hero Rooney wears them?

Majority of football is on Sky but that's doesn't stop millions of kids playing the game and spending money on shirts etc.

 

[Tommo21]

Providing they paid a lot more for it.

Get rid of that waste of money Top Gear, a programme for three grown men who get paid lots of money to go out and play.

This is about the BBC attitude, old ideas, no adverts. Meanwhile, all other networks move forward we still pay for the BBC even if you don't watch it. The BBC will never move forward, like the R&A and Muirfield...it's my way or no way.

 

[Imurg]

Is that the same kid that Supports Man Utd and gets his parents to buy the latest strip/boots because his hero Rooney wears them?

Majority of football is on Sky but that's doesn't stop millions of kids playing the game and spending money on shirts etc.

Majority - yes
Vast majority? - no.
BBC still has MOTD and plenty of other football matches. You can still see plenty of Rooney, Costa and the rest if you don't have Sky.

How much golf will the Beeb show now?

 

[Papas1982]

Majority - yes
Vast majority? - no.
BBC still has MOTD and plenty of other football matches. You can still see plenty of Rooney, Costa and the rest if you don't have Sky.

How much golf will the Beeb show now?

These kids that can't watch it now, will probably be the ones to talk to if you need a link to stream it.......

 

[Tongo]

Maybe I lived in a strange household. But in the summer when I came home from schoo the last thing I wanted to do was put the tv on. I went out and played sports. I've had sky as long as I can rememember. But didn't play a sport just because it was on tv. The people that play tennis around Wimbledon, or golf around the open, how many stick around?

Everywhere we look there are adds for fitness this, or diet that. I think people are becoming lazier, you could play sports live throughout the day at some schools and the kids would still just go home and veg out on the Xbox.

to blame sky for the Demise of sports is imo false. If I could think of one factor it would be computers. But even then the games are branded with players and the people who buy them want to play as their favourite clubs/players (who they've likely seen on tv).

Golf can be quite an exclusive club. I'm not against that. But, I'd imagine most people that can afford to play golf regularly can afford sky too. So if you're a parent and honestly think the only reason your child won't pick the game up is because they won't see it, get sky? Or stream it and show them. Or better still, take them along with you.

I dont undertand why it's always someone else's fault?

I can remember summer after summer of watching cricket on the beeb, watching England play badly at times but also watching some great players from abroad and then going out and playing in the alley next to our house with my brother. The stance i take now at the crease was based on a Windies player called Jimmy Adams who i watched and thought was rather cool the way he stood at the crease. Then as i got older i watched golf on the beeb and thought: i quite like that, i'll give it a go. I'm 35 now and still play both sports.

Yeah, exposure on the tv had nothing to do with it.

 

[Tongo]

Is that the same kid that Supports Man Utd and gets his parents to buy the latest strip/boots because his hero Rooney wears them?

Majority of football is on Sky but that's doesn't stop millions of kids playing the game and spending money on shirts etc.

Highlights on the beeb, FA Cup on peasant tv, internationals on peasant tv plus wall to wall saturation in the mass media and plenty of people likely telling their kids how great the sport is. There's plenty of exposure to the mass public. Every other sport going must now battle with the monolith that is Football.

 

[Papas1982]

I can remember summer after summer of watching cricket on the beeb, watching England play badly at times but also watching some great players from abroad and then going out and playing in the alley next to our house with my brother. The stance i take now at the crease was based on a Windies player called Jimmy Adams who i watched and thought was rather cool the way he stood at the crease. Then as i got older i watched golf on the beeb and thought: i quite like that, i'll give it a go. I'm 35 now and still play both sports.

Yeah, exposure on the tv had nothing to do with it.

when I was a kid I used to try and replicate Owens goal against Argentina in 98. I watched that goal as a kid in a villa in Florida whilst my family were at Disneyland. Point being, if you want to watch sport it's not hard to find.

Also, when you (we) we kids sky was maybe more exlusive. How many people are watching premier league feeds atm?

how many kids idolise messi? I presume they only see him on the Beeb?