Professional Golf 2024 & 2025

Lucifer MorningStar said:
It's good to see them having to navigate their way round and play the elements instead of overpowering the course. Think it's somewhere I'd quite enjoy having a crack out I like a plot and and play kind of course.

Mrs m has mentioned potentially venturing out there next year as she gets braver with flight lengths and personal circumstance depending next year, may have a little look into it in the new year.
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If you ever come out looking for challenges like that then definitely play that one, and if plotting your way round a course suits you then also this place needs to be on the list too:
Not as tough as it was when it opened (after taking some trees out) but still need to place the ball carefully on every hole. Langer designed it
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Lucifer MorningStar said:
It's good to see them having to navigate their way round and play the elements instead of overpowering the course. Think it's somewhere I'd quite enjoy having a crack out I like a plot and and play kind of course.
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Agreed. But one group has taken 2 hours 5 minutes to negotiate their first six holes. That’s beyond slow.
 
Billysboots said:
Agreed. But one group has taken 2 hours 5 minutes to negotiate their first six holes. That’s beyond slow.
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Yeah, that’s slow, must be bunching up. The afternoon groups are going to be slow round there, particularly when they are 3-ball & do a two-tee start (getting them from 18 green to 1st tee for second nine takes around 15-20minutes)
1st tee is a good couple of km’s from clubhouse (Did a shotgun start round there once, the fellas starting off on 2nd hole had the worst of it)

Hopefully just a one tee start on the weekend in 2-balls
 
One reason for the slow pace is the conditions.
I've heard of 2 players hitting 3 provisionals on the same hole...plus plenty going in the water and having to play another...
Oh, and its raining in Paradise.......and I don't mean Aylesbury :ROFLMAO:
 
I've come to realise why I tend to watch the golf with the sound down...
A drivable par 4, Gérard hits driver and goes through the back and down a slope..
"Excellent drive" they say.......no it isn't. If it was he'd have been, at least on the fringe and putting..
He chipped up, into a bunker, flopped it out and sunk the Par putt
Conversational Gonads again.........
 
Imurg said:
I've come to realise why I tend to watch the golf with the sound down...
A drivable par 4, Gérard hits driver and goes through the back and down a slope..
"Excellent drive" they say.......no it isn't. If it was he'd have been, at least on the fringe and putting..
He chipped up, into a bunker, flopped it out and sunk the Par putt
Conversational Gonads again.........
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It’s one of the problems with golf commentary.
It’s a sport we’re sometimes not a lot is happening so they feel the need to speak and most of it is rubbish.
Let us listen to the birds/wildlife for a few seconds.
That’s a perfect shot is one often used but it’s actually 10 feet away, a perfect shot would be in the hole.
Rather keep your mouth shut and let people assume you are an idiot than open it and confirm their suspicions.
 
irip said:
It’s one of the problems with golf commentary.
It’s a sport we’re sometimes not a lot is happening so they feel the need to speak and most of it is rubbish.
Let us listen to the birds/wildlife for a few seconds.
That’s a perfect shot is one often used but it’s actually 10 feet away, a perfect shot would be in the hole.
Rather keep your mouth shut and let people assume you are an idiot than open it and confirm their suspicions.
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Extremely well summed up, one of the comments earlier made me chuckle. Johnson was talking about one of the SA players and how they're a great wind player with skills honed over a multi year career, only then to come up 20 yards short of the green with a wedge in hand! 😂
 
irip said:
It’s one of the problems with golf commentary.
It’s a sport we’re sometimes not a lot is happening so they feel the need to speak and most of it is rubbish.
Let us listen to the birds/wildlife for a few seconds.
That’s a perfect shot is one often used but it’s actually 10 feet away, a perfect shot would be in the hole.
Rather keep your mouth shut and let people assume you are an idiot than open it and confirm their suspicions.
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They best commentators over the years have been exactly that, the quietest. Just let things roll with a few comments every now and then.
 
Leaving "blank air" is also a questioning technique. Some people feel uncomfortable with the quiet and start talking, eg, providing more information on an answer they had already provided.
It's fun to watch - try it!
 
kp17 said:
They best commentators over the years have been exactly that, the quietest. Just let things roll with a few comments every now and then.
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Sadly, I don't think they'd be allowed to do that now. Modern directors don't like dead space. I agree with you and I'm not a fan of modern commentators for this very reason.
 
What's most annoying about the golf commentary is that, so times, you get a really good insight into What's going on, especially if it's Johnny Morgan or Anthony Wall as they've been there and know the score....and then they come out with a load of rubbish.....
 
irip said:
It’s one of the problems with golf commentary.
It’s a sport we’re sometimes not a lot is happening so they feel the need to speak and most of it is rubbish.
Let us listen to the birds/wildlife for a few seconds.
That’s a perfect shot is one often used but it’s actually 10 feet away, a perfect shot would be in the hole.
Rather keep your mouth shut and let people assume you are an idiot than open it and confirm their suspicions.
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It's a subject I've heard Mark Crossfield being irate about on his podcast - just because someone played the game at the highest level, it doesn't mean they understand the ins and outs of the game, particularly as the game has moved on a lot in 20 years. Someone like Laura Davies comes to mind, I have great respect for her and what she did in the game, but often what she comes out with is little more than clichés. They will often say things about how a pro should never miss a green with a wedge when in fact statistically they all miss plenty, etc etc. Crossfield had a great one too where a commentator reckoned a player had hit it "with topspin" which is physically impossible - you can only hit with varying amounts of backspin until it hits the ground and starts rolling.
 
Arthur Wedge said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/2001598851073876230

Think some players you can never see playing on the Champions Tour etc and Rory is certainly one of them , same with Woods
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Hardly surprising really. Why would any of the real top players in today’s game consider playing Champions tour, they have all the money in the world have accomplished everything the game offers and don’t need to spend even more time away from home in effectively their retirement years.

Champions tour, Staysure tour etc will going forward continue to be for middle of the road players looking to earn some decent extra coin and achieve things they didn’t manage in their regular career. The likes of Langer etc going down that road is going to become far fewer but you may see the likes of a Fowler etc do it where they’ve under achieved a little.
 
Lucifer MorningStar said:
Hardly surprising really. Why would any of the real top players in today’s game consider playing Champions tour, they have all the money in the world have accomplished everything the game offers and don’t need to spend even more time away from home in effectively their retirement years.

Champions tour, Staysure tour etc will going forward continue to be for middle of the road players looking to earn some decent extra coin and achieve things they didn’t manage in their regular career. The likes of Langer etc going down that road is going to become far fewer but you may see the likes of a Fowler etc do it where they’ve under achieved a little.
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I get that, but at the same time, if your whole life is golf it must be hard to just turn off from that. I figure a lot of these players who have made their money might play the Champions Tour just for fun if nothing else. I'm sure there aren't too many events that you have to play in a year? Otherwise what's he going to do, just become a weekend hacker like the rest of us? 😄
 
Orikoru said:
I get that, but at the same time, if your whole life is golf it must be hard to just turn off from that. I figure a lot of these players who have made their money might play the Champions Tour just for fun if nothing else. I'm sure there aren't too many events that you have to play in a year? Otherwise what's he going to do, just become a weekend hacker like the rest of us? 😄
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I’d imagine they might play the odd exhibition, Roy could move into a tour ambassador role for the RC still make appearances in majors etc. Tiger I would think would focus on his businesses, course design and family. Can’t see Schefler playing any seniors golf he’s already said golf is not the most important thing to him.

I’m not saying all of them will decline playing it in just I believe it of the top players will step aside, play for fun and be involved in other ways like Faldo did. There will come a point for people spending all that time playing golf all their life that they just want more than whacking a ball around a field. That’s why I think it’s longevity remains in the future of the also fans and those that haven’t quite achieved what they wanted.

I think that’s partly the reason behind Poults, Westwood etc choosing Liv at their latter ages as it’s a better club earner than the Champions tour.
 
Lucifer MorningStar said:
I’d imagine they might play the odd exhibition, Roy could move into a tour ambassador role for the RC still make appearances in majors etc. Tiger I would think would focus on his businesses, course design and family. Can’t see Schefler playing any seniors golf he’s already said golf is not the most important thing to him.

I’m not saying all of them will decline playing it in just I believe it of the top players will step aside, play for fun and be involved in other ways like Faldo did. There will come a point for people spending all that time playing golf all their life that they just want more than whacking a ball around a field. That’s why I think it’s longevity remains in the future of the also fans and those that haven’t quite achieved what they wanted.

I think that’s partly the reason behind Poults, Westwood etc choosing Liv at their latter ages as it’s a better club earner than the Champions tour.
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I was thinking how funny it would be if Rory got to 50, and instead of Champions Tour, just said 'sod it' and signed for LIV for a retirement payday. :ROFLMAO:
 
Orikoru said:
I was thinking how funny it would be if Rory got to 50, and instead of Champions Tour, just said 'sod it' and signed for LIV for a retirement payday. :ROFLMAO:
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Imagine the comments on here with certain posters having to then full about face and say it’s a valid tour with an all time great player 😂
 
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