Preferred Lies - Winter extension

[rulefan]

Is that available to see anywhere?

Oops, sorry.

Our manager had received an email from our County Secretary but I now see it only applies in my County ie Yorkshire

 

[Imurg]

Email from the club earlier...PL off from Monday....

 

[upsidedown]

Extended from County on application

 

[rulefan]

Extended from County on application

Until when?

 

[upsidedown]

Until when?

Haven't seen the email reply from County but Match director had asked for extension into May with the proviso we asses daily and as soon as possible will remove Pl, so when he rang me to tell County had said yes have assumed thats what we have got

 

[IanM]

I think Newport is a good month behind where it usually is "condition wise." Pref lies still needed and the greens haven't recovered from the maintenance carried out weeks ago. Very little growth in evidence. It's been really cold over night for this whole month.

 

[louise_a]

WE have had notification that we can have another 7 days or preferred lies.

 

[rulefan]

Our greenkeeper has been reporting for some time that ground (as opposed to) air temperatures have been too low for proper germination and growth. He has had similar comments from around the county from others. Apparently it was a common topic at the recent BTME.

 

[clubchamp98]

We had an extended period of PL.
Two round major this weekend.
Saturday PL,Monday No PL
There will be a few caught out by this no dought.

 

[clubchamp98]

Our greenkeeper has been reporting for some time that ground (as opposed to) air temperatures have been too low for proper germination and growth. He has had similar comments from around the county from others. Apparently it was a common topic at the recent BTME.

Yes this is true.
if you have a mix of grasses in your greens they grow at different rates depending on the ground temp at night not during the day.
This is what can make them a bit bumpy early in the season.

 

[IanM]

Amusingly our website has a big banner on the course status tab saying, "Winter Rules no longer apply "

Above it it says "buggies not permitted " which means mucky in places.

Going up for a social game this afternoon, I wonder what I'll find?

 

[IanM]

I played at 3pm. Virtually every shot off the fairway would have needed varying degrees of a "clean."

No idea why we haven't asked for an extension.

 

[Deleted member 29109]

We’ve not asked for an extension. We need one as the fairways are still a bit of a mess.

 

[rulefan]

I played at 3pm. Virtually every shot off the fairway would have needed varying degrees of a "clean."

No idea why we haven't asked for an extension.

I don't think there is a restriction on "Muddy Ball" Lift, Clean and Replace.

 

[IanM]

I don't think there is a restriction on "Muddy Ball" Lift, Clean and Replace.

Sorry.... I don't follow.

We've had winter rules suspended. Play it as it lies. If there's muck on it, too bad.

Unless I'm missing something

 

[rulefan]

Sorry.... I don't follow.

We've had winter rules suspended. Play it as it lies. If there's muck on it, too bad.

Unless I'm missing something

I'm suggesting Local Rule E-2 Cleaning Ball could be used instead of E-3 Preferred Lies

E-2 Cleaning Ball​

Purpose. When ground may cause mud to stick to the ball, the Committee can choose to allow the player to mark, lift, clean and replace the ball in the general area.
Such relief should be limited to those portions of the course where needed.
eg It could be restricted to the fairway

 

[IanM]

Thanks, I see what you mean. I feel an email to the manager coming on!

 

[D-S]

I'm suggesting Local Rule E-2 Cleaning Ball could be used instead of E-3 Preferred Lies

E-2 Cleaning Ball​

Purpose. When ground may cause mud to stick to the ball, the Committee can choose to allow the player to mark, lift, clean and replace the ball in the general area.
Such relief should be limited to those portions of the course where needed.
eg It could be restricted to the fairway

So this local rule could be limited to closely mown (fairway height or less) areas? This would seem like the simplest solution for “mud balls” that I am surprised it is not used more often.

 

[doublebogey7]

So this local rule could be limited to closely mown (fairway height or less) areas? This would seem like the simplest solution for “mud balls” that I am surprised it is not used more often.

I am guessing because too many members would not see the subtle difference between replace and place.

 

[rulefan]

I am guessing because too many members would not see the subtle difference between replace and place.

When we have either or both both in operation we highlight the significant differences on the "Winter Conditions" notices (on the two boards, on the website and emails sent to all members.