Power Generation, Companies and Prices

[williamalex1]

SILH you should ask them for a power monitor which easy to install no wiring required. You can then see which appliances are using the most power.
I'm for ever telling HID not to fill the kettle with more water than you need and turn off lights ESPECIALLY 50 watt halogen down lighters if you have them , the cooker , washing m/c , all use a lot of power . Best of luck

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

SILH you should ask them for a power monitor which easy to install no wiring required. You can then see which appliances are using the most power.
I'm for ever telling HID not to fill the kettle with more water than you need and turn off lights ESPECIALLY 50 watt halogen down lighters if you have them , the cooker , washing m/c , all use a lot of power . Best of luck

We've got one now - and it's what I'm using to track use - brilliant - 53p today, £1.29 yesterday, £14 for all of running week up to yesterday. Last 4 weeks running at £42.

I think we were bad last year on kettle being boiled too often; main oven on for hours on end and well before needed being used - then forgetting to turn it off; and 24hr a day use of an electric convection heater for a period when it was really cold. Also with two kids at home we seemed to have 2-3 wash loads EVERY day.

 

[Rooter]

SILH, have you worked out your house PUE yet though?! Facilities / everything else!?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

SILH, have you worked out your house PUE yet though?! Facilities / everything else!?

Nah - don't live in a data centre. Though a House PUE? How would you do that?

 

[Rooter]

Nah - don't live in a data centre. Though a House PUE? How would you do that?

How to physically do it would be easy, thats what i do every day, branch circuit monitoring.

Would be interesting how you split facility to operations. I would think that heating, lighting etc would be your facilities power. TV, radio, kettle etc would be your IT or operational load. can you tell i was a bit bored earlier? i think this has legs though... watch this space!!

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

How to physically do it would be easy, thats what i do every day, branch circuit monitoring.

Would be interesting how you split facility to operations. I would think that heating, lighting etc would be your facilities power. TV, radio, kettle etc would be your IT or operational load. can you tell i was a bit bored earlier? i think this has legs though... watch this space!!

Well given that most electrical stuff we have has some form of 'information technology' element to it (sorry) so I guess we aim for a green IT house.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Perhaps we should cut out the middle men of the foreign owned power company and pay our monies directly to the foreign owned power suppliers.

Thatcherism at it's best.
Even that nice John Major is trying to give the Eton Mess some solid advice.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Even that nice John Major is trying to give the Eton Mess some solid advice.

..and of course they will dismiss him out of hand as a senile old tw*t out of touch with the realities of today's world.

 

[williamalex1]

..and of course they will dismiss him out of hand as a senile old tw*t out of touch with the realities of today's world.

Who me.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Who me.

No - the 'I'm all right jack' numpties currently running the country (apparently) who are too cowed by big business to do the difficult things that the majority of this country need doing - largely because the numpties themselves aren't affected by the issues to anything like the same degree - if at all.

 

[SocketRocket]

No - the 'I'm all right jack' numpties currently running the country (apparently) who are too cowed by big business to do the difficult things that the majority of this country need doing - largely because the numpties themselves aren't affected by the issues to anything like the same degree - if at all.

SLH. It wont save a fortune but it will save you and you may feel better that you will be dealing with an organisation without Shareholders where the profits are shared with customers Cooperative Energy, they are increasing by half of what the others are.

Oh! only one tariff and no contracted period.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

SLH. It wont save a fortune but it will save you and you may feel better that you will be dealing with an organisation without Shareholders where the profits are shared with customers Cooperative Energy, they are increasing by half of what the others are.

Oh! only one tariff and no contracted period.

As it happens I'm in a fixed tariff deal until mid 2015 - so I'm alright Jack - ish

Haven't heard any of the bosses of the Big Six PCs tell us when tariff rises of 10% are likely to end. Next year, year after - 10 years down the line? When dear boys. Pray tell us. You will have your 5, 10 and 20 yr forecasts from your analysts and financial directors in front of you - and these will include assumptions you have made on your costs, margins and hence prices you will be charging. And you will have an assumption on the annual % increase we will have to pay. So can you let me know please as I may have to seriously start pressurising my current employer for a more significant annual wage rise - actually a wage rise of any sort would be nice. Or start looking for a better paying job. And you best tell the government as well because they are going to have to take your increases into account in their budgets.

Because dear Big Six PCs - it is an unfortunate truth that no matter how justified you feel you are in raising your charges to us; no matter how detailed your breakdown of charges; no matter how you plead that you don't make much profit for you shareholders; no matter what you say - there will come a point already reached for many - that the majority will just say - STOP - we cannot afford this - we cannot pay.

And when we all stop paying our bills then what are you going to do - cut us all off? Really you'd do that wouldn't you? Well you've already threatened to hold us to ransom by saying you could pull the plug on power supply if a future government caps prices for a year or two. Just who do you think you are?

 

[Ethan]

Even that nice John Major is trying to give the Eton Mess some solid advice.

Could be that HMG is trying to test a new policy but having someone on the outside float it while allowing HMG to keep deniability for now. Major is not known for his maverick tendencies.

 

[FairwayDodger]

Could be that HMG is trying to test a new policy but having someone on the outside float it while allowing HMG to keep deniability for now. Major is not known for his maverick tendencies.

Didn't he run away from the circus?

 

[Ethan]

Didn't he run away from the circus?

No, I think that was Nellie the Elephant. Easy to confuse the two of them!

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I quite liked Major until he went out for a Currie.

 

[williamalex1]

I quite liked Major until he went out for a Currie.

A curried eggweena

 

[SocketRocket]

No, I think that was Nellie the Elephant. Easy to confuse the two of them!

:rofl: :clap:

 

[Snelly]

Energy prices have risen an indefensible 24 per cent in the past four years, during a time of wage freezes and austerity.

It was announced this week that Centrica made £2.7 billion PROFIT last year. I note from the Telegraph today that in other news, the Chief Executive of Centrica has applied for planning permission to have a second swimming pool installed at his Cotswold mansion as the one he currently has is a bit far to walk to in Winter.

These prices will just keep rising year on year. It is shameful and quite obscene in my view.

 

[Snelly]

Didn't he run away from the circus?

He did indeed. Ran away from the circus to become an Accountant!