potential problem with the new 'flag in' rule !

[clubchamp98]

Its one of those things that sounds like a nice idea but would be to hard to put into practice, with every slightly dodgy lie being questioned. Just play it as it lies ,it's not that common occurrence.

We had a local rule that said “if you are on a seeded divot repaired by the green staff you get relief”
This was withdrawn couple of years ago, as they were classing it as GUR but it had to be marked apparently
Thought this was a good idea as playing off a seeded divot there’s nothing to put back.

 

[clubchamp98]

Its one of those things that sounds like a nice idea but would be to hard to put into practice, with every slightly dodgy lie being questioned. Just play it as it lies ,it's not that common occurrence.

We have a couple of tight doglegs and it is a common occurrence in these landing areas .

 

[Jacko_G]

I just think on long putts it could be an advantage,especially on long downhill putts on fast greens.
I will give you a scenario and you tell me if it’s fair.
50ft downhill putt because I’ve left it the wrong side of the hole,there’s no way I can stop it going 12ft past or even off the green.I leave the flag in and it’s racing by,it hits the flag full tilt and bounces up high stopping a foot from the hole.
Is that right?
Let’s also say it gets me a handicap cut when it would have been buffer(is that fair or right).

Is it anymore fair that a full 4 iron smacking the pin second bounce and stopping 6 feet away I stead of 20 yards through the back?

Is it any more fair than a ball hitting a tree and coming back out into the middle of the fairway and not into the jungle?

So many negative moaning Minnie's and that is saying something coming from me!!!!

 

[Jacko_G]

Spoke to the comp sec in the clubhouse and he had been made aware by the GK.
His take was a warning was being posted to tell players it would be considered a serious breach of etiquette and a disqualification from any comp and a warning about conduct in any other game.

I have seen loads of people do this over years so this might stop it.
But you would have to grass them up, ?

Absolute codswallop.

A serious breach of ettiquette???


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[Deleted Member 1156]

Absolute codswallop.

A serious breach of ettiquette???


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Guess it could/would be considered deliberately damaging the hole so action of some description should be taken.

 

[Jacko_G]

Guess it could/would be considered deliberately damaging the hole so action of some description should be taken.

So you hole out with the flag in, get to the hole and for whatever reason can't get the ball out without pulling the flag and the secretary thinks he/she can disqualify you.

As I say absolute codswallop and prove it was deliberate which it quite clearly isn't.

 

[pokerjoke]

Is it anymore fair that a full 4 iron smacking the pin second bounce and stopping 6 feet away I stead of 20 yards through the back?

Is it any more fair than a ball hitting a tree and coming back out into the middle of the fairway and not into the jungle?

So many negative moaning Minnie's and that is saying something coming from me!!!!

I don’t hit a 4 iron,not good enough

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

So you hole out with the flag in, get to the hole and for whatever reason can't get the ball out without pulling the flag and the secretary thinks he/she can disqualify you.

As I say absolute codswallop and prove it was deliberate which it quite clearly isn't.

Irrespective of the new flag rule if someone is damaging the hole then action should be taken against them.

 

[Jacko_G]

Irrespective of the new flag rule if someone is damaging the hole then action should be taken against them.

Again utter rubbish.

Your intentions were to get the ball out of the hole, not to "damage" the hole. To try and prove otherwise would be very foolhardy and potentially render the club liable to "slanderous" accusations.

The secretary would very quickly end up putting the club in a very precarious position.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Again utter rubbish.

Your intentions were to get the ball out of the hole, not to "damage" the hole. To try and prove otherwise would be very foolhardy and potentially render the club liable to "slanderous" accusations.

The secretary would very quickly end up putting the club in a very precarious position.

If someone knows they are damaging the hole though and still continue to do it then surely you would expect something to be down ?

I’m sure you wouldn’t be happy if your putt was affected by a damaged hole

 

[backwoodsman]

Trying to get the ball out using the flagstick is as antisocial as not repairing pitchmarks. As is trying to scoop it out with a putter head. The 25th rule of golf should be that anyone who does any of these gets an automatic kick in the nuts - or the lady-equivalent.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Again utter rubbish.

Your intentions were to get the ball out of the hole, not to "damage" the hole. To try and prove otherwise would be very foolhardy and potentially render the club liable to "slanderous" accusations.

The secretary would very quickly end up putting the club in a very precarious position.

Ok if you say so.

 

[Jacko_G]

Ok if you say so.

Good lad.

 

[patricks148]

I've seen quit a few players take the ball out of the hole using the putter head , never heard of any of them being threatened with dq...at at least 4 different clubs as well so as Jacko says how is lifting the ball out with the flag????

 

[clubchamp98]

Absolute codswallop.

A serious breach of ettiquette???


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That’s what it’s going to be !
Everyone knows

 

[Orikoru]

Just out of interest what’s your thoughts on balls in old divots.

Well I don't think you should have to play the ball out of a divot on the fairway. But they haven't changed that rule so I'm not sure why you asked.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Trying to get the ball out using the flagstick is as antisocial as not repairing pitchmarks. As is trying to scoop it out with a putter head. The 25th rule of golf should be that anyone who does any of these gets an automatic kick in the nuts - or the lady-equivalent.

I'm a fan of a taser in these situations but I think I am going to have to give way on this to your suggestion . If you propose it, I'll second it.

 

[Wolf]

I'm a fan of a taser in these situations but I think I am going to have to give way on this to your suggestion . If you propose it, I'll second it.

Extra vote here motion carried anyone does this at a forum meet gets a toe to the family jewels

 

[clubchamp98]

I've seen quit a few players take the ball out of the hole using the putter head , never heard of any of them being threatened with dq...at at least 4 different clubs as well so as Jacko says how is lifting the ball out with the flag????

I think it’s only arisen because of the rule change.
Some greenkeepers are not happy with the damage to the hole and we are only a week in from the change.
In winter he only changes the holes every other day but now may have to be everyday.
This is one noticeable downside and the club have reacted.

We have two rules evenings coming up so expect this to be discussed.

 

[drdel]

My 'group' today noticed that because some guys wanted the flag in and some wanted it removed, on the same green, there was a bit more faffing about than before !!