Politics. a wind of change?

[SocketRocket]

I think the landscape has indeed shifted. We live now in an era where populism and nationalism is prominent. In fact it's just not correct to talk about voting in terms of intelligence or education levels because, increasingly, people are voting with their heart rather than their heads. Currently the right wing have tapped into feelings of frustration mainly among the sort of people who in years gone by enjoyed a certain amount of privilege by virtue of their country of birth, their race, their gender; some or all of these. Indeed, the likes of Trump and Farage are walking a tightrope by promulgating their socially right wing agenda while trying to avoid stumbling into more neo-fascist territory.

It's hard to counter that with "steady hand on the tiller" type candidates and an egalitarian philosophy.

I think the balance will swing back again but not sure at the moment what will revitalise liberal politics in the short term. Sadly, in America, I fear it will only come as a reaction to the inevitable injustices that the new republican administration will enact.

This also explains the "make America great again" nonsense. America was never great, not for *all* its people. At times it was down right awful! However straight white men can look back to a period where life was probably an easier ride than it is now and yearn for those days, oblivious to the fact that they are still top of the heap.

Disappointed you have needed to use sexual gender and orientation to make your point. I believe you would be unhappy if others used that against you.

 

[SocketRocket]

You can be uneducated and astute with a searching mind and you can be well educated and gullible with a closed mind.
I think the UK is split 50/50 on that combination at the mo.
Some still living on 1950's values and frightened of change, others just selfish and greedy.

I have said for a while that western world politics will shift to the left.
I just hope that happens without bloodshed.


Interestingly I agree with SR's #49.
Eough......must go and wash my hands now

When you have cleansed your hands maybe you could do it with your credibility and justify or apologise for your remarks on the RN.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Disappointed you have needed to use sexual gender and orientation to make your point. I believe you would be unhappy if others used that against you.

I can see gender used in FD's post, and it is correct in the context of this argument, especially considering allegations levelled at Trump. I don't see orientation mentioned, maybe your trying to just score points.

 

[SocketRocket]

I can see gender used in FD's post, and it is correct in the context of this argument, especially considering allegations levelled at Trump. I don't see orientation mentioned, maybe your trying to just score points.

"However straight white men can look back to a period where life was probably an easier"

 

[Liverbirdie]

"However straight white men can look back to a period where life was probably an easier"

Fair enough.

Burn the witch!!!

 

[FairwayDodger]

I've just read an interesting and thought-provoking piece, which many will no doubt vehemently disagree with. Personally, I just hope it's wrong.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tobias-stone/history-tells-us-what-will-brexit-trump_b_11179774.html

 

[palindromicbob]

Decline in standards of education.
For Brexit and Trump the pollsters kept telling us that it was mainly going to be poorly educated white working class males who were voting for them.
Either they were wrong or there are one hell of a lot of poorly educated white males in the world today.

The main groups that these votes are attributed to are the 50-65 age group they probably haven't had much more education than they did 4 years ago when Obama got his second term.

Trump and Brexiters both campaigned with one thing in common. The prospect of change. The Democrats and Remainers where touting the status quo. When the status quo feels crap and unfair with a majority it isn't going to win. Many will vote for a change even if this means taking a dive into the unknown even if there is a risk things might be worse the chance of things getting better is enough.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Palindromicbob - top post, well put.

 

[vkurup]

Maybe the changes I have edited in your post would improve it's credibility.

Thanks for stepping in and helping out..

 

[MegaSteve]

I have said for a while that western world politics will shift to the left.
I just hope that happens without bloodshed.

Unfortunately 'the left' have pretty bad record of listening...
Often abandoning the folk they are meant to be representing to satisfy there own ideals...

The worst bit follows with the rebound vote to the right...
'Ordinary' folk can never win...
Then often [wrongly] get labelled as bad people...

Roll on the revolution...

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Fair enough.

Burn the witch!!!

:lol:
Thank goodness FD did not move down to North Berwick.
They used to do lots of that there.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

What do you mean "used to"

 

[Doon frae Troon]

She is a decent golfer, they would probably give her a pardon.
Maybees a fortnights divoting duty to keep the Kirk happy.