GG26
Challenge Tour Pro
Not a million miles from my own views. You never know though, I thought that Sergio would never get over the line, but played some great golf when he needed to.
Players you can’t see ever winning a major.
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Not a million miles from my own views. You never know though, I thought that Sergio would never get over the line, but played some great golf when he needed to.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
At the end of the day you can't discount anyone who tees it up in a Major.
They've qualified by one means or another so must have some sort of game.
Given the right week and the breaks anyone can win one.
You need a big slice of luck, as well as good play, to win one of these things
The likes of Hamilton, Curtis, Beam, Micheel and the rest are all the proof you need.
They've qualified by one means or another so must have some sort of game.
Given the right week and the breaks anyone can win one.
You need a big slice of luck, as well as good play, to win one of these things
The likes of Hamilton, Curtis, Beam, Micheel and the rest are all the proof you need.
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
For arguments sake on here, let us assume a players career as a tour pro runs from 22 (once they have a tour card and have learned how to compete on tour, and that's perhaps a little generous) and runs to 42 (yes I know there have been major winners over 40 but it's not a common occurrence) that would give a 20 year window. Even assuming these players get an invite to Augusta, certainly early in their career and qualify for all four majors every year that is only 80 chances to win. Given the calibre of players out there, add in the one hit wonders like Hamilton, etc then its a tiny window of opportunity and needs an awful lot of factors to align.
Grant85
Head Pro
Not insulting ZJ or Bubba - but they aren't Stenson, Garcia, Rose, Scott, Day, DJ level guys. ZJ got a huge amount out of his game, being very tidy with a fairly one dimensional long game. Bubba is simply a wildcard who can only play courses that suit him - got lucky that Augusta is one of those - barely had a top 10 at any other major.
Was going through guys in top 50 with regards to naming other players aside form the main ones that others had mentioned.
Grant85
Head Pro
Eddie Pep will compete at the Open most years. And will also have chances in the US Open on the right courses. Very frustrating he was injured for this week.
Wallace has been on a great trajectory career wise and could give himself a load of chances over the next few years.
Andre Linoge
Medal Winner
He did albeit a Snr one, or 3
Jacko_G
Blackballed
Bubba is an incredible talent. To suggest he got lucky is just simply pig ignorant.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Gary Woodla......Oh....wait a minute
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Sorry again that’s nonsense about both Watson and ZJ ?!
ZJ has around the same tour wins as all the players you mention plus more majors - those guys haven’t reached his level of results , just because he isn’t a “flair†player doesn’t mean his ability can be dismissed and Watson also got to a playoff in the US PGA - calling him “lucky†is as already been said ignorant to his ability’s- he maybe unconventional but you can not argue with his results.
Parsaregood
Head Pro
Mark leishman not quite up to major ? What drugs do you smoke mate especially when you think Wallace and pepperell of all people are better equipped
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
Zach Johnson has two major wins. Hardly a one hit wonder and more than capable of adding to those
Wolf
Well-known member
Some of the comments on here about players like ZJ. 10 PGA tour wins and 2 majors..
What people should really be thinking is actually he's a good player. I do often wonder about people sanity sometimes
What people should really be thinking is actually he's a good player. I do often wonder about people sanity sometimes
Jacko_G
Blackballed
Yip Bubba can out play certain types of course yet has wins in Texas, Georgia and the Bahamas!
Two Masters victories including one of the best shots I have ever witnessed out of the trees, top tens in both the US Open and the USPGA, 2 x WGC event wins also.
Such a lucky guy to have won all these!
😂😂😂😂
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Bubba has won at Riviera 3 times, TPC River Highlands 3 times, Augusta twice - wow, when he gets lucky, he gets LUCKY !
Orikoru
Tour Winner
I can't see Pepperell ever winning a major, but Wallace I can. He's got some serious game. 3rd in the PGA and 12th in the US this season - I'm going to be backing him for the Open, I think he has a decent chance.
r0wly86
Head Pro
I do totally get where Grant is coming from.
I don't think anyone is arguing that ZJ is a poor player or underserving, but despite his majors I wouldn't categorise him as a top player like those we talk about when discussing "who's going to win this week" etc he is a solid player who due to the tightness of his game will usually be posting decent rounds. No major win is lucky but perhaps we could categorise it as surprising, I doubt many people picked him as a winner, and when you compare his game to those top players who haven't won a major it makes it more surprising. Major results aside I would say Westwood and Monty were better golfers than ZJ.
Bubba is very wild, but when his game is on he can shoot really low as he hits the ball a mile and a whole load of spin. Definitely not lucky but perhaps I would compare him to John Daly who also won 2 majors. I would probably not rate him as one the top players in the world, but there is no denying when it starts clicking he can win big events.
Harrington is another I would stick in that bracket, obviously a terrific player but perhaps surprising he is a multiple major winner.
That's how I would categorise those players, obviously very talented and good golfers, but maybe being multiple major winner is a little surprising when you compare them to players that have never won a major and would be considered objectively better golfers.
I think Rahm will win one, he is always up and around the middle of the pack, he just needs one week where the gods smile on him and putts drop and the bounces go in his favour. Likewise Fleetwood I think he will pick up a couple of Opens, especially if the wind blows his truncated swing is built for tough links conditions.
Fowler would be my pick for players that have the game to win a major but never will. I think if he got one a few years ago he would have picked up 3 or 4 by now, but with each year that passes the mental side just gets harder and harder. And like Westwood and Monty I think that the mental side will kill him when he gets in contention. Sergio did his best not to win a major by messing up at the final hurdle several times, but glad his he fall over the finish line once in his career
I don't think anyone is arguing that ZJ is a poor player or underserving, but despite his majors I wouldn't categorise him as a top player like those we talk about when discussing "who's going to win this week" etc he is a solid player who due to the tightness of his game will usually be posting decent rounds. No major win is lucky but perhaps we could categorise it as surprising, I doubt many people picked him as a winner, and when you compare his game to those top players who haven't won a major it makes it more surprising. Major results aside I would say Westwood and Monty were better golfers than ZJ.
Bubba is very wild, but when his game is on he can shoot really low as he hits the ball a mile and a whole load of spin. Definitely not lucky but perhaps I would compare him to John Daly who also won 2 majors. I would probably not rate him as one the top players in the world, but there is no denying when it starts clicking he can win big events.
Harrington is another I would stick in that bracket, obviously a terrific player but perhaps surprising he is a multiple major winner.
That's how I would categorise those players, obviously very talented and good golfers, but maybe being multiple major winner is a little surprising when you compare them to players that have never won a major and would be considered objectively better golfers.
I think Rahm will win one, he is always up and around the middle of the pack, he just needs one week where the gods smile on him and putts drop and the bounces go in his favour. Likewise Fleetwood I think he will pick up a couple of Opens, especially if the wind blows his truncated swing is built for tough links conditions.
Fowler would be my pick for players that have the game to win a major but never will. I think if he got one a few years ago he would have picked up 3 or 4 by now, but with each year that passes the mental side just gets harder and harder. And like Westwood and Monty I think that the mental side will kill him when he gets in contention. Sergio did his best not to win a major by messing up at the final hurdle several times, but glad his he fall over the finish line once in his career
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I would agree that Paddy is probably the most unlikely 3 time major winner
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
But isn't he a bit like Faldo and went away to rebuild his swing and got murdered in the press for doing so and came back to win a major. Definite vindication for me for a single minded drive and desire to be the best player possible
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Harrington isn't in the same league as Faldo
rksquire
Head Pro
From the current top 50:
Paul Casey
Shane Lowry
Kevin Na
Ian Poulter
Matthew Fitzpatrick
Cabrera Bello
Eddie Pepperell
Billy Horschel
Tyrell Hatton
Brendt Snedeker
Jim Furyk
Aphibarnrat
Good safe list there I think!
Paul Casey
Shane Lowry
Kevin Na
Ian Poulter
Matthew Fitzpatrick
Cabrera Bello
Eddie Pepperell
Billy Horschel
Tyrell Hatton
Brendt Snedeker
Jim Furyk
Aphibarnrat
Good safe list there I think!
