Piers Morgan

Mate, you do know they only stopped publishing it 6 years ago and that’s just not true stating they were made unemployed, they were mostly models employed by an agency and they lost 1 income stream.

As the discussion was specifically about Page 3 girls, my point was that they were no longer employed as Page 3 girls; hence unemployed. Yes, they had other income streams, but they lost their Page 3 jobs.
 
As the discussion was specifically about Page 3 girls, my point was that they were no longer employed as Page 3 girls; hence unemployed. Yes, they had other income streams, but they lost their Page 3 jobs.
Apart from a few years ago when there was a few models given contracts by the rag, ie, early 80’s Sam Fox aged 16, given a 4 year contract. The latter years the models worked for/or were employed by a modelling agency who sold the rights for an individual picture, it was the agency who had the contract.

They had no job protection, they weren’t on the rags payroll.
 
Apart from a few years ago when there was a few models given contracts by the rag, ie, early 80’s Sam Fox aged 16, given a 4 year contract. The latter years the models worked for/or were employed by a modelling agency who sold the rights for an individual picture, it was the agency who had the contract.

They had no job protection, they weren’t on the rags payroll.
I remember an interview with one of the girls a few years ago. She wasn't happy about losing some of her income and she also said she never felt exploited. Think from memory it was Linda Lusardi.
 
I was never a fan of page 3. It did give some young ladies z list celebrity status, which gave them access to vip areas in night clubs, and the chance to mix it with footballers.
I would guess now they would be social media influencers, providing another important service, giving z list status.
 
I remember an interview with one of the girls a few years ago. She wasn't happy about losing some of her income and she also said she never felt exploited. Think from memory it was Linda Lusardi.
Probably not her mate as she finished page 3 in 1988 and it wasn’t stopped by the rag until 2015.

Katie Price also stated that when she did page 3 the agency charged £90.00 and after agency fees etc she was handed £30.00 and it was a fallacy that they were well paid.
 
Probably not her mate as she finished page 3 in 1988 and it wasn’t stopped by the rag until 2015.

Katie Price also stated that when she did page 3 the agency charged £90.00 and after agency fees etc she was handed £30.00 and it was a fallacy that they were well paid.

Probably why a lot of them went into porn ?
 
Probably not her mate as she finished page 3 in 1988 and it wasn’t stopped by the rag until 2015.

Katie Price also stated that when she did page 3 the agency charged £90.00 and after agency fees etc she was handed £30.00 and it was a fallacy that they were well paid.
Either way, it wasn't the models that wanted it stopped.
 
As the discussion was specifically about Page 3 girls, my point was that they were no longer employed as Page 3 girls; hence unemployed. Yes, they had other income streams, but they lost their Page 3 jobs.
For me it is not specifically about the page 3 girls at all - it's about the mindset framed in those boys and men looking at the photographs of half naked young women on page 3 in a national newspaper. As soon as you make it about the page 3 girls themselves you are missing the whole point that I was making when bringing up page 3 - and that those who campaigned against page 3 girls were making and for which for their troubles they were roundly abused and dismissed as 'kill joy' libbers - just as some these days choose to attack those who are woke.

When such as Morgan makes clear he is anti-woke he risks diminishing the seriousness of misogyny and racism that those who are woke campaign against- and as such as Morgan have significant platforms that many listen to - the risk is that in the heads of some - and it doesn't need to be many - these hate-crimes are lessened in their seriousness.
 
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I’m guessing “woke” is some new buzz word for certain people to latch on

What does it mean ?‍♂️
 
For me it is not specifically about the page 3 girls at all - it's about the mindset framed in those boys and men looking at the photographs of half naked young women on page 3 in a national newspaper. As soon as you make it about the page 3 girls themselves you are missing the whole point that I was making when bringing up page 3 - and that those who campaigned against page 3 girls were making and for which for their troubles they were roundly abused and dismissed as 'kill joy' libbers - just as some these days choose to attack those who are woke.

When such as Morgan makes clear he is anti-woke he risks diminishing the seriousness of misogyny and racism that those who are woke campaign against- and as such as Morgan have significant platforms that many listen to - the risk is that in the heads of some - and it doesn't need to be many - these hate-crimes are lessened in their seriousness.

I did not miss your point, I chose not to comment on it.
 
Piers will be back on GB News and more vocal than ever, trust me. It's a done deal. More viewers, more money, he'll be the winner and so will the public.

I personally found his behaviour on GMB pretty shameful on some issues and brilliant on others.

His comments on Megan Markle were right in parts. She played the victim card with the usual buzz words designed to generate outrage to an American audience. Making accusations without naming anyone is a cowardly move. Regarding her mental health no one will know and Piers was wrong to focus on that.

But stuff like being a prisoner when she was out in London every week, private jets to the French Riviera or New York having a good time is laughable. Her turnover of private staff in a short space of time is unheard of in history.

For a couple who hate publicity the interview was a spin doctors dream, no negative questions just a free reign to twist the narrative. How can she talk about family when she's ghosted most of her own :unsure::ROFLMAO: Harry should be ashamed, sat there like a nodding dog grimacing in fake outrage. Never had a proper job in his life, privileged beyond belief and no wonder the British Army never let him anywhere near the front line.
 
Piers will be back on GB News and more vocal than ever, trust me. It's a done deal. More viewers, more money, he'll be the winner and so will the public.

I personally found his behaviour on GMB pretty shameful on some issues and brilliant on others.

His comments on Megan Markle were right in parts. She played the victim card with the usual buzz words designed to generate outrage to an American audience. Making accusations without naming anyone is a cowardly move. Regarding her mental health no one will know and Piers was wrong to focus on that.

But stuff like being a prisoner when she was out in London every week, private jets to the French Riviera or New York having a good time is laughable. Her turnover of private staff in a short space of time is unheard of in history.

For a couple who hate publicity the interview was a spin doctors dream, no negative questions just a free reign to twist the narrative. How can she talk about family when she's ghosted most of her own :unsure::ROFLMAO: Harry should be ashamed, sat there like a nodding dog grimacing in fake outrage. Never had a proper job in his life, privileged beyond belief and no wonder the British Army never let him anywhere near the front line.
He did end up on the Front line for a short period until the media got hold of it

He also then flew Apaches on the front line support - smack bang in the middle of the trouble

He has done more for injured military than many others and suspect done more for the country than many others
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