Patrice Evra a disgrace?

[sawtooth]

Why wouldn't he??

I take my hat off to him.

Did Evra apologise for taking his hand away though?

I think not, the man's a cock!

Why wouldn't he?

Well if Suarez was innocent and he didnt shake Evra's hand because he couldn't (as you said Evra never offered it) why on earth would Suarez apologise?

Who apologises for something they didn't do? I sure as hell wouldn't.

In other words Suarez admitted his own guilt by apologising.

 

[In_The_Rough]

Suarez apologised because LFC PR bloke has told him to no other reason dont for one minute think that was a genuine apology

 

[sawtooth]

Suarez apologised because LFC PR bloke has told him to no other reason dont for one minute think that was a genuine apology

I dont think there is anything nice or genuine about Suarez dont worry. It was suggested on here that Evra was the guilty party in the handshake thing and I disagree. Suarez refused and because he apologised he basically admitted to it - thats all.

 

[robbest3offthetee]

I wouldnt shake hands with some knob who got me a 8 match ban, why would you, think this shaking of hands before the game is a load of nonsense anyway, everyone is going on about suarez but evra and man u are not completely blameless....

 

[In_The_Rough]

I dont think he has done though all that was is a pre written statement for him by the suits and it has been published. Just like an MP reading out their pre prepared script when in reality they dont mean a word of it nor have any intention of actually carrying any of it out. Not a fan of either club as well I thought the whole episode was an embaressment from start to finish.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Suarez has issued an apology, Dalglish has issued an apology and Man Utd have said they want to move on. It is only the gutter press and the cash cow that is SSN that will keep this rolling on for weeks to come. Its what sells papers and gets viewers. It'll be dragged up tonight on MOTD2

In my opinion both Suarez and Evra need to be charged with bringing the game into disrepute, fined and banned. Dalgleish and Fergie need to be sanctioned by the PL/FA for their comments and then it needs to be left to die. Trouble is, every time these teams play in the next five years it'll all comeback to the surface. I do think Liverpool may consider Suarez as a liability though and look to offload

 

[In_The_Rough]

Suarez has issued an apology, Dalglish has issued an apology and Man Utd have said they want to move on. It is only the gutter press and the cash cow that is SSN that will keep this rolling on for weeks to come. Its what sells papers and gets viewers. It'll be dragged up tonight on MOTD2

In my opinion both Suarez and Evra need to be charged with bringing the game into disrepute, fined and banned. Dalgleish and Fergie need to be sanctioned by the PL/FA for their comments and then it needs to be left to die. Trouble is, every time these teams play in the next five years it'll all comeback to the surface. I do think Liverpool may consider Suarez as a liability though and look to offload

Agree both were as much to blame.Players and Managers
I think this feud is here to stay now though to be honest everytime they play it will arise
Cant see LFC offloading him to be honest as he is their best player by a country mile and on top of that who is going to spend the sort of money needed to buy him not many clubs around with that sort of cash.

 

[In_The_Rough]

I wouldnt shake hands with some knob who got me a 8 match ban, why would you, think this shaking of hands before the game is a load of nonsense anyway, everyone is going on about suarez but evra and man u are not completely blameless....

Exactly what I said in an earlier post. Load of cobblers, do I care if teams shake hands before or after the whistle? Not one bit scrap it now and another problem solved 1 less thing to riot and scrap about

 

[Scottjd1]

Cant see LFC offloading him to be honest as he is their best player by a country mile and on top of that who is going to spend the sort of money needed to buy him not many clubs around with that sort of cash.

Wouldnt it be funny if Dalgleish took the moral high ground and offloaded him, and then Fergie stepped in to buy him and play him and Evra in the same team... ha !:rofl:

 

[alnecosse]

just looked at the slo mo and as a neutral i would say Saurez had his hand out to make contact as Evra was dropping it away so he just by passed him imo Evra to blame and Liverpool doing all the apologising if Evra had left his hand out Saurez would have shook it, and Fergie bang out of order with his comments spent ten years backing Cantona and Roy Keane wouldnt say they were the best advocates for sporsmanship.

 

[In_The_Rough]

Wouldnt it be funny if Dalgleish took the moral high ground and offloaded him, and then Fergie stepped in to buy him and play him and Evra in the same team... ha !:rofl:

It would in a way yes. Never happen though. Hope it doesn't as well as Suarez would fit into Utd's team and style of play perfectly and would score and create bags of goals so if he does go then hope it is abroad

 

[JustOne]

Why wouldn't he??

I take my hat off to him.

Did Evra apologise for taking his hand away though?

I think not, the man's a cock!

Why wouldn't he?

Well if Suarez was innocent and he didnt shake Evra's hand because he couldn't (as you said Evra never offered it) why on earth would Suarez apologise?

Who apologises for something they didn't do? I sure as hell wouldn't.

In other words Suarez admitted his own guilt by apologising.

Suarez apologised because it was the smart thing to do. I've apologised for things I've never done, sometimes it's just the clever/right/most appropriate thing to do, and apologised for other people too.

Suarez has certainly gone up in my esteem, he made Evra look the right cock he is.. I'd have been 100% on Evra's side otherwise.

 

[A1ex]

Suarez apologised because it was the smart thing to do. I've apologised for things I've never done, sometimes it's just the clever/right/most appropriate thing to do, and apologised for other people too.

Suarez has certainly gone up in my esteem, he made Evra look the right cock he is.. I'd have been 100% on Evra's side otherwise.

Suarez and smart in the same sentence :rofl:

Evra isn't the most likeable guy in football (arrogance, WC farce etc) but only an absolute cock could give Suarez credit for this whole incident.

 

[lee_leggett]

OK, So im not a man u fan and i dont support liverpool... But all i can say is what has Rio said... Suarez/Evra is up in the air, did he didnt he???? makes not difference, what does is Rio refused to shake Suarez's hand full stop....

Is that acceptable???

 

[connor]

rio was prob high on coke or summit and didnt even notice suarez coming

 

[Naybrains]

rio was prob high on coke or summit and didnt even notice suarez coming

 

[connor]

was purely a tongue in cheek comment

 

[NWJocko]

Dalglish, Suarez and Evra all come out of this looking pretty terrible from where I'm standing.

In different ways perhaps but the behaviour of all 3 has been putrid. Never mind LFC alone selling Suarez, all 3 should be out of the English game if they were serious about changing perceptions.

 

[jammag]

I am absolutely disgusted with some comments on here how you can say oh I wouldnt of shaken his hand as he got me an 8 game ban. Yet he admitted to a racist comment. Wheres the sense there? Lets look at some stuff that happened.

Suarez admits to making a racist remark! He is then obviously found guilty. You wouldnt go to a police station and say yeah I stole this and then others say nah you didnt. How stupid are some people he admits to it he gets charged.

Liverpool were the only ones who come out and made all these ridiculous comments about how Evra lied and what ever else. Then the t-shirts in support. Yet he then goes onto admit the comments a week or so later. Talk about leading your team mates up a creek there. United never come out and anytime it was bought up in a press conference it was said we reported it and its now up to the FA and left it at that. Who caused the bigger issue there?

The handshake, funny how all the experts in the situation say yeah Suarez is wrong there yet someone decides to point out Evra didnt have his hand fully out so that means he is now completely in the wrong. He put it out there the same as he did every other player who walked by. Evra had nothing to be ashamed of and Suarez came out and tried to play the victim. It was the worst thing Suarez could of done as it fired united up and Ferdinand had his best game in months. Those who say Evra didnt want to shake his hand why was he so annoyed when he walked by him. If he didnt want to shake hands he wouldnt of cared one bit but as you can see by the videos hes clearly upset by it.

Why should the handshake be scrapped for this game. Years of trying to get fairplay into the game and kick racism out and because of one incident it should all be withdrawn because of Suarez, its about trying to teach the youngsters respect in the game which means they should have shaken hands and shown that football should be played in the right spirit, instead every kid who watched that will now think its ok to abuse someone and then avoid handshakes as well. Everyone of you goes on about how theres a lack of respect in football then say he was correct to not shake hands.

Evra was wrong for what he done at the end but I can imagine his emotions were high and that win probably meant a whole lot more than other wins. He shouldnt of done it infront of Suarez and to his credit he did not react to it. Although I do find it funny everyone mentions Evra but not Rafael doing the exact same.

Like it or not Suarez let a lot of people down, he told Liverpool he was going to shake hands hes made a great club to be looked like a bunch of unproffesionals as it has caused so much more than shame on Suaurez due to the lies that have come out about how he didnt do it then he did and then lead them up the path in saying I am going to shake hands and then not.

Racism is not a joke its not some gimmick program the FA have produced its a serious problem and it needs stamping out anyone who suggests otherwise are an absolute joke if you condone anything Suarez has done in that incident. Its a shame peoples choice of club or hatred for another club seems to change there opinion to fit that.

 

[Shaunmg]

I am absolutely disgusted with some comments on here how you can say oh I wouldnt of shaken his hand as he got me an 8 game ban. Yet he admitted to a racist comment. Wheres the sense there? Lets look at some stuff that happened.

Suarez admits to making a racist remark! He is then obviously found guilty. You wouldnt go to a police station and say yeah I stole this and then others say nah you didnt. How stupid are some people he admits to it he gets charged.

I wasn't going to get back into this, as I am fed up of banging my head against a wall with all those quoting the biased miss reporting from the press.

Suarez did NOT admit to making a racist remark. He denied the charge completely and clarified his use of a word, which he believed not to be racist. It was the panel who deemed it was racist, it was not an admission to racism from Suarez. He was not found to be guilty beyond reasonable doubt. He was found guilty on a “balance of probability” not my words, but the panel’s words. He was found to be “probably” guilty.

Only 2 people on the planet heard what was said and in what context it was said or how many times it was said; Evra and Suarez. The panel took one man’s word against the other without sound proof. This could not happen in a British law court. Hence; unlike the Terry case where there are other witnesses, Suarez has never been charged, because it would have been thrown out of court

Suarez maintains his innocence. Whilst I feel he was wrong not to draw a line under the whole affair and shake hands. Perhaps in doing so it would be seen as a sign finally admitting he was racist. He will never admit to that