DaveM
Tour Winner
Come on lads time to let it drop. A lot of peoples views will be coloured by the colour of the shirts. Oh sorry they both wear red.
Patrice Evra a disgrace?
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jammag
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It doesnt matter if he uses it in his own country or what ever, he said it in a dispute stating about the colour of his skin, whether it means nothing in his own country or not he still referred to the colour of skin. Hes learnt the hard way about this, hes been done for similar offences before as well as biting an opponent and the hand ball in the world cup.
What does my head in is a lot of people hammered Tiger for spitting on a green, yet in football call someone a negrito heck hes ok as he plays for my club. Its embarressing to have views that reflect your own views on football clubs.
What does my head in is a lot of people hammered Tiger for spitting on a green, yet in football call someone a negrito heck hes ok as he plays for my club. Its embarressing to have views that reflect your own views on football clubs.
hangover
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Liverpool Football Club, Offended by eveything but ashamed of nothing.
Shaunmg
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Jammag
Yes I know the point you're making and the panel came to the same conclusion as you. What I am challenging is the widely reported misconception that he admitted to a racist remark. He did not.
He claimed the word was not racist and the panel disbelieved him. I think the panel was perhaps right, but not proven. He did not admit to it and I stand by my belief he could not have been convicted in a court of law. Do you believe he could have???? If so why was he not charged as Terry was
Yes I know the point you're making and the panel came to the same conclusion as you. What I am challenging is the widely reported misconception that he admitted to a racist remark. He did not.
He claimed the word was not racist and the panel disbelieved him. I think the panel was perhaps right, but not proven. He did not admit to it and I stand by my belief he could not have been convicted in a court of law. Do you believe he could have???? If so why was he not charged as Terry was
And it didn't stop the daft Richard from going on Uraguayan radio a couple weeks back and letting rip again.
Sorry but anyone who can't see what a prat he is needs counselling.
Sorry but anyone who can't see what a prat he is needs counselling.
jammag
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I understand what you are saying but he may of said it in frustration or what ever but he said that word, which he admitted to. He may not have meant it as a dig I dont know I wasnt there but he said the word and it was heard and someone found it offensive. Its not different to 2 people having an argument and someone walking by being offended by it. Hes found out the hard way about what words he can and cannot use but you wouldnt get away with it if you was in a different country and said something similar. The problem the FA had was if they didnt charge him for it then any foreign player could of come over and been shouting a lot worse down the cameras or directly at players and then say what do you mean im being charged it means this in my country so you cannot. The FA had no choice but to charge him as soon as he admitted the word.
Terry is only going to court because a member of the public reported it. Evra had the option but said I dont believe he is normally a racist person, which meant that Suarez didnt get as much of a ban as he could of and that it didnt go to court. If Evra wanted it he could have, the same as the Terry incident. This is what I have been told by a policeman who explained why 1 goes to court and the other didnt.
Terry is only going to court because a member of the public reported it. Evra had the option but said I dont believe he is normally a racist person, which meant that Suarez didnt get as much of a ban as he could of and that it didnt go to court. If Evra wanted it he could have, the same as the Terry incident. This is what I have been told by a policeman who explained why 1 goes to court and the other didnt.
Shaunmg
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I respectfully disagree. Although you are right the police acted on a complaint regarding Terry. It was however from a third party witness and not a complaint from the Anton Ferdinand himself.
In the Terry case the crown prosecution service decided there was enough evidence to proceed with a prosecution. That is; there are witnesses other than the 2 parties involved and there is also video evidence.
In the Suarez case there is no such evidence at all, neither a third party witness nor video evidence. No court would rely on one person’s word against another, with no other evidence. Suarez could not have been found guilty in a court of law.
Although unfortunate as it is for Suarez and for Liverpool, who have probably missed out on a champions league place as a result of losing a key player and leading goal scorer for 8 matches. Some good has come out of this. This along with the Terry affair has brought home the issue of racism in football and in life in general more than anything I can think off. The good side of this is we much less likely now to hear the racism on the terraces as a result of this affair.
A racist element exists in every set of club supporters. In spite of the Man Utd fans newly acquired sanctimonious façade, they too have their racist element as much as Liverpool and all the rest
In the Terry case the crown prosecution service decided there was enough evidence to proceed with a prosecution. That is; there are witnesses other than the 2 parties involved and there is also video evidence.
In the Suarez case there is no such evidence at all, neither a third party witness nor video evidence. No court would rely on one person’s word against another, with no other evidence. Suarez could not have been found guilty in a court of law.
Although unfortunate as it is for Suarez and for Liverpool, who have probably missed out on a champions league place as a result of losing a key player and leading goal scorer for 8 matches. Some good has come out of this. This along with the Terry affair has brought home the issue of racism in football and in life in general more than anything I can think off. The good side of this is we much less likely now to hear the racism on the terraces as a result of this affair.
A racist element exists in every set of club supporters. In spite of the Man Utd fans newly acquired sanctimonious façade, they too have their racist element as much as Liverpool and all the rest
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Snelly
Guest
I would not have shaken Evra's hand either. In fact I don't think I would shake any hands before the game if I was playing against Manchester United. I would object to being told by the FA that I had to do it to support one of their campaigns.
I would afterwards I guess. Out of courtesy to my vanquished opponents. Not Rooney though. Nor Ferdinand. In fact, I would only shake hands with Paul Scholes I think.
I would afterwards I guess. Out of courtesy to my vanquished opponents. Not Rooney though. Nor Ferdinand. In fact, I would only shake hands with Paul Scholes I think.
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Why? He's ginger so easily a good enough reason not to shake his hand!! I think if you have to shake a Man U's player's hand it should be Giggs for knocking-off his sister-in-law for years, a Welsh slapper, and god knows how many local Mancunian bikes, and still has his wife stand by him!!
jammag
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I know people say they wouldnt want to shake hands its silly, but how many people do it when they meet each other, on the first tee, before a business meeting. You wouldnt not shake the hand of a business in a rival company if you went into a meeting together? I suppose its the same for footballers, they have a duty to try and protect the game that has served them so well and try and give youngsters the right view to playing football later on in life. If not it could be utter carnage in 15 years and they have even less respect than they do now.
