chris661
Money List Winner
And using the charity angle to basically cover up what is a selfish act is despicable.
ParFromAfar.com 12 month scratch challenge has launched...
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Jimbooo
Challenge Tour Pro
Maybe its not about making it to scratch, but about trying to make it. Even if he gets to low-single figures then I think that's an achievement. Set yourself high goals and all that.
Yes there are lots of other blogs etc doing the same thing, but it's for a good cause and the guy seems serious and seems to be putting in the effort.
Its gonna be tough so I wish him good luck!
Yes there are lots of other blogs etc doing the same thing, but it's for a good cause and the guy seems serious and seems to be putting in the effort.
Its gonna be tough so I wish him good luck!
parfromafar
Medal Winner
That post is not acceptable.
The charity element was integral to the project from the start.
How much will you raise this year?
The charity element was integral to the project from the start.
How much will you raise this year?
parfromafar
Medal Winner
Thank You.
I wouldn't have started it if I didn't believe I could achieve it. But you are right, however I do the BMF will do well as a result.
That was always a key consideration.
I wouldn't have started it if I didn't believe I could achieve it. But you are right, however I do the BMF will do well as a result.
That was always a key consideration.
SO what is the challenge - is it to play a level par round or get a scratch handicap. The first one is doable but I doubt you'll ever get to the second.
chris661
Money List Winner
Tell me why my post was unacceptable.
richy
Journeyman Pro
Good luck with it all mate I hope it goes well. I wish I had the balls to give it a go.
I wouldn't listen to the negative comments on here, I think some of them come from being jealous that they don't have the time or resources to do it. I said some NOT ALL!
I wouldn't listen to the negative comments on here, I think some of them come from being jealous that they don't have the time or resources to do it. I said some NOT ALL!
Swinger
Journeyman Pro
The average club golfer donates a fair bit to charity over the course of a year through club events, extra charity days, donations, draws/raffles, fines and bets.
I have no probelm supporting most charities but golfers and golf in general do a lot to raise money for charity so don't be overly surprised when you get a few messages along these lines. It can get a bit much to have another thing like this dressed up as charity rammed into your face.
I will not be looking at your blog or reading many future posts as I have no interest in what you are doing.
Good luck all the same though.
Region3
Ryder Cup Winner
Why?
Surely anything that raises money for charity is ok.
Plenty will follow and donate. Clearly you won't be. For what it's worth neither will I as it doesn't interest me. I don't feel the need to be insulting though.
Live and let live. All it's cost you is a few minutes to read the thread.
Would it be better or worse than despicable if charity wasn't involved?
parfromafar
Medal Winner
It's the second.
The former has been done before.
I get 1 crack at it and I'll give it my best for the full 12 months.
My site is simply the story as it unfolds.
No soft soap. Just what I'm doing - for better or worse.
As It's a fundraising venture I ask for donations from those who enjoy reading about my journey - whatever happens.
Thanks for giving it the time of day.
The former has been done before.
I get 1 crack at it and I'll give it my best for the full 12 months.
My site is simply the story as it unfolds.
No soft soap. Just what I'm doing - for better or worse.
As It's a fundraising venture I ask for donations from those who enjoy reading about my journey - whatever happens.
Thanks for giving it the time of day.
parfromafar
Medal Winner
Cheers.
I just want to give those that are interested the chance to follow and be involved. Nothing more.
C.
I just want to give those that are interested the chance to follow and be involved. Nothing more.
C.
parfromafar
Medal Winner
A post to genuinely make me laugh is very welcome based on the tone of some of the responses.
Thanks Rob!!
Thanks Rob!!
chris661
Money List Winner
Why? Because this smacks of me me me, then has a charity bit stuck on. The op even said as mnuch himself.
At least it would be plainly obvious that this is all about the op if there was no charity part involved. There are many many many ways to raise money for charity.
Please do tell why I was insulting?
Piece
Tour Winner
ParFromFar hasn't helped himself with the OP being a sledgehammer post. It was your first post and you gave the hard sell to a forum that is well established, knowledgeable, etc. If you had worded the OP differently, softened it with some intro words and introduced what you are doing on a personable basis (like you have done with some of your latest posts) then I think the reception would have been better.
In summary, market and sell yourself better. You'll get a better response.
And I do wish you luck and raise lots of money for a worthy cause.
In summary, market and sell yourself better. You'll get a better response.
And I do wish you luck and raise lots of money for a worthy cause.
Region3
Ryder Cup Winner
Maybe it's just the way I was brought up or I'm overly sensitive, but if you said something I was doing was 'despicable' I would be insulted.
It makes it sound on a par with robbing the poor box or nicking flowers from a cemetary.
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
Do you not think that by not applying for a handicap until you are all but down to scratch is cheating the handicap process?
Have you approached CONGU to see what cards you need to submit to be allocated a 0.0 handicap, Id be amazed if you submit 3 level par rounds they'd give you scratch?
The real hard part of these challenges is getting from 5 to 0, partly from how many rounds you need to play at gross or better, and ultimately you are trying to short circuit this by your approach.
A big part of being a scratch golfer is the consistency required over a period of time, a process you are clearly trying to avoid (due to the time pressure of the challenge)
Good luck, I seriously think you will struggle, and personally feel because of the approach even if you do get there you will have cheated the process that 99.9% of golfers understand as the handicap system (ie waiting until you are of a certain level before getting your first handicap).
Have you approached CONGU to see what cards you need to submit to be allocated a 0.0 handicap, Id be amazed if you submit 3 level par rounds they'd give you scratch?
The real hard part of these challenges is getting from 5 to 0, partly from how many rounds you need to play at gross or better, and ultimately you are trying to short circuit this by your approach.
A big part of being a scratch golfer is the consistency required over a period of time, a process you are clearly trying to avoid (due to the time pressure of the challenge)
Good luck, I seriously think you will struggle, and personally feel because of the approach even if you do get there you will have cheated the process that 99.9% of golfers understand as the handicap system (ie waiting until you are of a certain level before getting your first handicap).
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
Btw I see you are putting cards on your site regularly, do you intend to do a comparison as if the first 3 are for handicap purposes and then adjust your handicap up/down on every card from then on, be interesting to see where you finish with you handicap being assessed the "normal" way
chrisd
Major Champion
None of this will be interesting as far as I am concerned. In one form or another it's all been done. We are all trying to play better and get our handicaps down and I, for one, havn't the slightest interest.
If the OP was claiming that he could be a tour player in a year then maybe I would have a check how it was going every 3 months or so.
I take more of an interest in how the guys here are doing with their golf as, over a period of time, you get to know them through the posts or during a forum meet and it means something
Chris
AuburnWarrior
Tour Winner
Let's look at this abjectly - you're pertaining to get to scratch within a year for charity.
OK, this is a golf forum so, to a man, we're all looking to get our handicaps as low as possible - that's a fact! So, to come on here and state that you're going to get to scratch within a year is condescending and extremely arrogant. Making statements about scratch in a year gives the impression that this game is easy and it isn't.
Charity. You're doing it for charity - hmm. Are you? Really? Aren't you doing it for yourself so you've got the kudos of telling people that you're off scratch?
In essence, what you're planning to do is a very selfish act. You'll be playing golf all day, every day - we'd all love to do that! You're trying to make it less selfish by adding the charity angle.
From my perspective, if you want to do something for charity that's never been done before then you need to do something that's going to cause you pain, that's a million miles outside of your comfort zone and is, entirely, a selfless act. Four rounds of golf in a day or Eddie Izzard and his 43 marathons in 51 days springs to mind. What your doing is for your own gratification.
You've given up your job - that's your decision but I'm sure you can return to your industry in the near future.
The blog. Let's be clear here - a blog should only be written by someone doing something that very few people have access to - sailing the world on your own, competing at a sport at the very highest level or, even, say a surgeon and what s/he's done in a day. A hacker trying to get to scratch? It'll be as funny and interesting as driving a Fiat Panda around the M25!
I've said it before, I'll say it again - there's only one man's blog I'd read.....and he ain't got one!
OK, this is a golf forum so, to a man, we're all looking to get our handicaps as low as possible - that's a fact! So, to come on here and state that you're going to get to scratch within a year is condescending and extremely arrogant. Making statements about scratch in a year gives the impression that this game is easy and it isn't.
Charity. You're doing it for charity - hmm. Are you? Really? Aren't you doing it for yourself so you've got the kudos of telling people that you're off scratch?
In essence, what you're planning to do is a very selfish act. You'll be playing golf all day, every day - we'd all love to do that! You're trying to make it less selfish by adding the charity angle.
From my perspective, if you want to do something for charity that's never been done before then you need to do something that's going to cause you pain, that's a million miles outside of your comfort zone and is, entirely, a selfless act. Four rounds of golf in a day or Eddie Izzard and his 43 marathons in 51 days springs to mind. What your doing is for your own gratification.
You've given up your job - that's your decision but I'm sure you can return to your industry in the near future.
The blog. Let's be clear here - a blog should only be written by someone doing something that very few people have access to - sailing the world on your own, competing at a sport at the very highest level or, even, say a surgeon and what s/he's done in a day. A hacker trying to get to scratch? It'll be as funny and interesting as driving a Fiat Panda around the M25!
I've said it before, I'll say it again - there's only one man's blog I'd read.....and he ain't got one!
RGDave
Money List Winner
What a surreal thread.
1 O.P. and 21 (is it?) replies individually to all the replies.
Sadly, I fear the only way it can happen is by practising all day, every day, 16 hours a day, which leaves no time for blogs (God help us) and writing or fundraising.
I'd love to be proved wrong. If it happens, someone tell me and I'll give £200 to the charity.
1 O.P. and 21 (is it?) replies individually to all the replies.
Sadly, I fear the only way it can happen is by practising all day, every day, 16 hours a day, which leaves no time for blogs (God help us) and writing or fundraising.
I'd love to be proved wrong. If it happens, someone tell me and I'll give £200 to the charity.
