On a Day by Day basis which would you rather play?

Stableford or Medal

  • Stableford

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Surely even you can understand that going further into trouble could be the difference between hitting it out of rough or a hazard to being deep in trees ,

Ten yards could be the difference between getting an ok lie in light semi rough to gouging out in thick rough

Or ten yards further in trouble could be ob as opposed to chipping out of trees

Distance is not the be all
Why does further/longer always have to mean further/longer in trouble, you could be 30yds further down the hole and only 3yds off the fairway.
 
Most courses have graduated rough/hazards. First cut, semi rough, thick rough, trees, OB. The further from the fairway you are, normally the greater the hazard.
I’m not sure this correct as every course is different, sometimes further could clear some trees or even end up on another fairway etc
 
It’s not a convoluted way of saying anything


It’s very simple

And goes back to the original question

Anyone that wants get their HC lower , keep the ball in play
I keep could keep the ball in play by hitting it 50yds at a time and taking 8-10 strokes on every hole, how is that going to reduce my handicap?

Fact is, statistically it is better to hit it further with a driver (obviously using good course management) even kids are now taught to hit it hard and then gain control.
 
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We have 5 par-3s at my course.

When I play with a big-hitting plus-handicapper round our course, they seem to use driver only 5,6 or 7 times during the round.
Saw one chap, in recent years, not use driver at all on the back nine when he had a good score going.
But ours is a course where position can and does take preference over distance on many holes. Par 70, CR 70.8 and SR 132.

Sweeping statements are not always without some merit, but are so easily criticised.
I was growing as a teenager and lowering my handicap from 18 to 5 in three summers was all about hitting it further as I grew taller.
But once an optimum distance is in play, accuracy is everything with regards to shooting low scores.

How both accuracy and distance combines for an individual varies from individual to individual. So attending to improving one and/or the other is mixed.
If you are very wayward from the tee, then perhaps this does need to be attended to as much more of a priority.
 
Folks, I made a polite request yesterday for you to stop arguing and it seems to have fallen largely on deaf ears, this thread having now largely descended into a pedantic exchange regarding additional length from the tee and the issues that does or doesn’t cause.

Get back on topic please.
 
My point stands, give everyone on the forum an extra 10 mph and they will improve, with few exceptions.
I wish…I could try to generate an extra 10mph if I really wanted…but when I try I tend to add much greater dispersion to my shots…I’ll stick with lower dispersion. And I find (and it may just be me) that stableford tends to make me play more recklessly…so at times trying to get more club head speed on the ball - and that is usually bad for my scoring.
 
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I wish…I could generate an extra 10pm if I really wanted…but when I try I tend to add much greater dispersion to my shots…I’ll stick with lower dispersion. And I find (and it may just be me) that stableford tends to make me play more recklessly…so at times trying to get more club head speed on the ball - and that is usually bad for my scoring.
It's amazing that with the wealth of data from all levels golf that people still find this subject so hard to understand. Anecdotes about dispersion and trying to hit it to hard make no differnce to the reality.
 
It's amazing that with the wealth of data from all levels golf that people still find this subject so hard to understand. Anecdotes about dispersion and trying to hit it to hard make no differnce to the reality.
No anecdote…I know that when I try and increase my strike speed I lose some control….its just an unfortunate fact of my swing. That said…my experience is largely from my old swing path…I haven’t much yet tried to work on my strike speed with my coach now that I’ve changed my swing path. And I might still do a bit of that…but distance is not where the weakness in my game is.

And the thing is…and on topic…when I play stableford scoring I usually don’t care much how many points I end up with. But I much more care what my gross score is. So for instance if my front nine stableford is rubbish, I’ll often not bother that much back nine - or try shots I shouldn’t.
 
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Played in a comp called a reverse waltz the other day. Was stapleford based and actually quite fun, I think I just like playing golf whatever the format.
 
Played in a comp called a reverse waltz the other day. Was stapleford based and actually quite fun, I think I just like playing golf whatever the format.
We play the Waltz once in a while with my big rollup groups. Not a fan, but I don't mind them. My opinion is that it is more fun for the higher handicappers. If I had MY way, instead of doing a 1-2-3 people to count on holes and repeat I'd do a 2-3-4 and repeat. Consequences would be harsher....so likely I'd have a lynch squad after me.
 
We play the Waltz once in a while with my big rollup groups. Not a fan, but I don't mind them. My opinion is that it is more fun for the higher handicappers. If I had MY way, instead of doing a 1-2-3 people to count on holes and repeat I'd do a 2-3-4 and repeat. Consequences would be harsher....so likely I'd have a lynch squad after me.
Ha ha that would be mean😂 Its nice as it moves along pretty quick, perfect for a winter team comp.
 
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