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Isn't some of it yours Tony.....?:cheers::thup:![]()
Hold on whos been spreading vicious rumours.
Between you and me mate im setting him up for the big one.:lol:
Isn't some of it yours Tony.....?:cheers::thup:![]()
Assuming that the other factors are optimised (e.g. by custom fitting), distance is only determined by loft angle and shaft length. I know from custom fitting sessions that changing the flex of the shaft affects spin rate and dispersion much more than distance. So yes, I would expect equally numbered clubs to be within a certain range of specification!But it's not just the loft that affects the distance - do you want every manufacturer to produce the exact same club ?!
And you are obviously ignoring what I am saying. If I buy a new set of clubs, I don't want to spend several weeks working out how far each new club hits the ball. If it's a 9-iron I expect it to go about 120 yards, not 140 yards because the loft and shaft length have been changed to those of a 7-iron! From a scoring point of view, the short end of the range, say from 150 yards in, is more important than sheer length!![]()
Assuming that the other factors are optimised (e.g. by custom fitting), distance is only determined by loft angle and shaft length. I know from custom fitting sessions that changing the flex of the shaft affects spin rate and dispersion much more than distance. So yes, I would expect equally numbered clubs to be within a certain range of specification!![]()
I've had my current set of clubs for over a year now, so I have a pretty good idea of how far they all go, helped by a GPS watch. Unfortunately I can't do much about the ageing process!Don't underestimate the importance of working out distances for each club.
In fact it took me a morning to do it.
It might stop your handicap rising
No, I definitely meant 'equally numbered'! Then if I buy, say an 8 iron, from any maker, I can expect it to hit the ball a certain distance within a yard or two.Why buy the new set of clubs if they are not an improvement?Dispersion can't be so poor that it requires a different set of clubs! And, knowing that the 4-iron is no use, but you will need a GW, simply opt for one set up like that. There are plenty that are, or can be!
Swing speed has a lot to do with it! And with your short swing, there seems to be considerable room for improvement within your current set. And there's an assumption (in the 'custom fitting,I guess) that you are getting a pretty centred strike, which also has a significant effect!
And I think you meant 'equally lofted'...
No, I definitely meant 'equally numbered'! Then if I buy, say an 8 iron, from any maker, I can expect it to hit the ball a certain distance within a yard or two.![]()
Because my old set was getting a bit worn out and they were not properly custom fitted! Next question?:rofl:
As I asked, but you DelPhil-ised again, why buy a new set then!
Because my old set was getting a bit worn out and they were not properly custom fitted! Next question?![]()
I don't want to spend several weeks working out how far each new club hits the ball.
Actually I had owned my previous set of Ping irons for several years and they were bought secondhand anyway. I had got the lies bent to about the right figure by Ping, and I did fit new grips shortly after I bought them. They had AWT shafts fitted that were probably a tad too stiff for me.Worn out after 1 year? That's as much twaddle as I've heard in that time! I played 6 times a week with forged clubs for a couple of years and the only really noticeable wear to irons was from bag chatter and the occasional scrape!
Not getting them properly fitted though - at least for length and lie - before spending a serious amount of money was (typically?) daft! Though, from the lack of real issues, it wouldn't surprise me if there was no change required.
Assuming that the other factors are optimised (e.g. by custom fitting), distance is only determined by loft angle and shaft length. I know from custom fitting sessions that changing the flex of the shaft affects spin rate and dispersion much more than distance. So yes, I would expect equally numbered clubs to be within a certain range of specification!![]()
Actually I had owned my previous set of Ping irons for several years and they were bought secondhand anyway. I had got the lies bent to about the right figure by Ping, and I did fit new grips shortly after I bought them. They had AWT shafts fitted that were probably a tad too stiff for me.![]()
So it was the change from the Pings to the RBZs you were C/F-ed for. So not actually in the market for a new set of irons anyway! So what the numbers on the bottom of any (new) clubs means (or doesn't) has absolutely no relevance! It's all just :blah:
Do you ever read properly what people write? Or do you make up what you think they might have wrote?I had a fairly well used set of Ping i15 irons. Just over a year ago after trying some TM Speed Blades (not RBZ) at a demo day, I decided to invest in a new custom fitted set of them. I ordered 4-SW including a GW. Their spec is shown in my signature below. They are pretty good clubs and did reduce my handicap when I first got them. However I found the 4-iron quite difficult to use because it has so little loft, so that has languished in a cupboard. Otherwise I hit the ball at least a club longer than the Pings.
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4 iron has 20 degree loft doesn't it ? About standard for a 4 iron these days - pings is about 21 degree
But all you had to do was ask what the loft is when purchasing
the Ping I15 4 iron has 24 degrees of loft (I think).
I assumed that they would be about the same, but apparently they're not. According to the tables in the Leaderboard and Wikipedia links I have already posted, a modern 4-iron should have about 25 degrees of loft, but the Speed Blades 4-iron is only 20 degrees. See:4 iron has 20 degree loft doesn't it ? About standard for a 4 iron these days - pings is about 21 degree
But all you had to do was ask what the loft is when purchasing
I assumed that they would be about the same, but apparently they're not. According to the tables in the Leaderboard and Wikipedia links I have already posted, a modern 4-iron should have about 25 degrees of loft, but the Speed Blades are only 20 degrees. See:
http://taylormadegolf.co.uk/SpeedBlade-Irons/DW-SQ047.html
the Ping I15 4 iron has 24 degrees of loft (I think).