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My clubs never natter, unlike some of my playing companions!
So you manage to avoid the point by focussing on a spelling mistake
Numbers on golf clubs!
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So you manage to avoid the point by focussing on a spelling mistake
Foxholer
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Buying a set of clubs is not an insignificant outlay for a new golfer. If you could reduce the number of clubs required without affecting their functionality (e.g. by 5 degree gapping), surely more hard up young people could afford to take up the sport. I very much doubt that an extra degree of loft difference between clubs would make ANY difference to an average golfer's score, as was pretty much proved by our recent 5 clubs and a putter competition, where there were some much bigger gaps between clubs than that!
As I stated in the post you quoted, I don't believe the price would change! at least not significantly!
The second-hand market is more likely where 'hard up young people' will go for entry-level kit.
But I'd normally be a bit confused about how a thread labelled 'Numbers on Golf Clubs' was, by your own statement, actually about the affordability of a set of new clubs by 'hard up young people'!
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Fyldewhite
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Buying a set of clubs is not an insignificant outlay for a new golfer. If you could reduce the number of clubs required without affecting their functionality (e.g. by 5 degree gapping), surely more hard up young people could afford to take up the sport. I very much doubt that an extra degree of loft difference between clubs would make ANY difference to an average golfer's score, as was pretty much proved by our recent 5 clubs and a putter competition, where there were some much bigger gaps between clubs than that!
Think that's called a "half set". Was when I was starting out anyway. Of course you are quite correct in that the number of clubs doesn't make much difference to scores.....but so much is in the mind and we all want to "give ourselves the best chance". End of the day, loft creep isn't down to the manufacturers, it's down to the consumers (ie us) who for some reason think that a 6 iron that goes 10 yards further than the "old set" is somehow better despite it being the same as the old 5 iron. As for OP, really don't see any point or benefit in changing anything. what's stamped on clubs is just an identifier, what they do is important.
Actual lofts are not always obvious when looking at a new set of shinies. If the loft was stamped on them, then at least the trading standards people could have a go at the suppliers if they are not accurate. Numbers are meaningless without an accepted standard! Suggest that you read the last paragraph of the Leaderboard article about some recent Taylor Made irons.
Basically if you buy a bundled set it might be 4-PW. But the 4-iron might be unusable if you are not Jack Nicklaus, and you will probably need to buy a Gap Wedge if you want a half decent short game. Hence you have been sold one unnecessary and one extra club that should have been included in the set!
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Actual lofts are not always obvious when looking at a new set of shinies. If the loft was stamped on them, then at least the trading standards people could have a go at the suppliers if they are not accurate. Numbers are meaningless without an accepted standard! Suggest that you read the last paragraph of the Leaderboard article about some recent Taylor Made irons.
Basically if you buy a bundled set it might be 4-PW. But the 4-iron might be unusable if you are not Jack Nicklaus, and you will probably need to buy a Gap Wedge if you want a half decent short game. Hence you have been sold one unnecessary and one extra club that should have been included in the set!
Do you always ignore what people post and reply with a pre determined speech ?
All that matters is how far you hit each club - a quick search on Google can help find out the Loft on every club
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It doesnt matter really does it? As long as you know what each club does and how far they go.
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That's something you do too.
And you are obviously ignoring what I am saying. If I buy a new set of clubs, I don't want to spend several weeks working out how far each new club hits the ball. If it's a 9-iron I expect it to go about 120 yards, not 140 yards because the loft and shaft length have been changed to those of a 7-iron! From a scoring point of view, the short end of the range, say from 150 yards in, is more important than sheer length!
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ManinBlack
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Buying a set of clubs is not an insignificant outlay for a new golfer.
I'm not a new golfer but have an aversion to buying new clubs. The price of clubs, once a new model is introduced, just plummets and, to be honest, there's normally little difference between one club & the next two or three models. My current set of irons, which were 5 years old but "as new" cost me £80. There's no reason why any beginner should pay more than this, especially since custom fitting a beginner is a waste of time until he/she learns to swing properly. Just buy them & work out how far you hit each one and decide which is the longest, least lofted club you can hit consistently.
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I picked up a mint R1 for 85 quid.
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And you are obviously ignoring what I am saying. If I buy a new set of clubs, I don't want to spend several weeks working out how far each new club hits the ball. If it's a 9-iron I expect it to go about 120 yards, not 140 yards because the loft and shaft length have been changed to those of a 7-iron! From a scoring point of view, the short end of the range, say from 150 yards in, is more important than sheer length!
But it's not just the loft that affects the distance - do you want every manufacturer to produce the exact same club ?!
I picked up a mint secondhand TM R1 driver for £100 when they were still quite new, but just after the SLDR came out. I think new R1's were something like £349 at the time, so following golf fashion is quite an expensive hobby. I'm still using the R1 BTW, and am very happy with it. Currently set at 12 degrees of loft to get the maximum carry in Winter conditions.
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ManinBlack
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I picked up a mint secondhand TM R1 driver for £100 when they were still quite new, but just after the SLDR came out. I think new R1's were something like £349 at the time, so following golf fashion is quite an expensive hobby. I'm still using the R1 BTW, and am very happy with it. Currently set at 12 degrees of loft to get the maximum carry in Winter conditions.
And when the R15 hits the market all the used SLDRs will suddenly appear on EBay. And if it hits the ball an extra 1½ yards I'd be surprised, but there will be SLDR owners who will have to have it. "More money than sense" comes to mind.,
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I'll certainly be given it a try -
I think that we got to the point of diminishing returns some years ago when it comes to driver distances! :mmm:
pokerjoke
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Well we know you have more money than sense:ears:
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And you are obviously ignoring what I am saying. If I buy a new set of clubs, I don't want to spend several weeks working out how far each new club hits the ball. If it's a 9-iron I expect it to go about 120 yards, not 140 yards because the loft and shaft length have been changed to those of a 7-iron! From a scoring point of view, the short end of the range, say from 150 yards in, is more important than sheer length!
Don't underestimate the importance of working out distances for each club.
In fact it took me a morning to do it.
It might stop your handicap rising
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