No Returns - WHS

[Swango1980]

I find it difficult to understand how you see a handicap garnered fro just 3 rounds in a year is more accurate than one garnered from maybe up to 100

To me it seems considerably better than ignoring scores pretty much altogether from scores in away opens.

See my earlier comments for my views

 

[Old Skier]

At OPAWs a couple of years ago I played 4BBB with Jobr...and did not contribute on a single hole
No putts for a win or a half....all I did was buy the beers.
How can that possibly be used in calculating my handicap ?

Depends on the quality of the beer.

 

[Old Skier]

The current system typically required players to submit 3 "proper" scores (so to speak), before players could enter match play competitions. Perhaps some clubs put even bigger restrictions on entry to these, such as playing a minimum number of club comps? If there was clear evidence, then the Committee could always review handicaps for players cleaning up in match play comps.

I don't think that was a bad way to do it. Having players guess their scores instead just doesn't feel like it is better, in my view.

The min 3 cards, as far as I can see, apart for initial HC had disappeared. It will be up to clubs conditions of comp to decide on.

 

[Imurg]

Depends on the quality of the beer.

Can't remember what they had but it went down well

 

[Swango1980]

The min 3 cards, as far as I can see, apart for initial HC had disappeared. It will be up to clubs conditions of comp to decide on.

Apologies, I'm sort of referring to pre WHS, and anticipating competition organisers will generally continue this entry requirement.

 

[rulefan]

I can confirm that scores can be be returned for handicapping if four players play together regularly (eg every Monday morning) but play a 4BBB match. Providing they pre-register, all putt out and play in conformance with the RoG (eg. no advice to partner).

 

[USER1999]

This explains why some Americans never hole out, but seem to be putting a card in. They obviously knock it to a couple of feet, and pick up, adding one to their score. Seems odd to me. I have seen many people 4 putt from 2 feet.

 

[jim8flog]

This explains why some Americans never hole out, but seem to be putting a card in. They obviously knock it to a couple of feet, and pick up, adding one to their score. Seems odd to me. I have seen many people 4 putt from 2 feet.

It does not have to be 2 ft it can be off the green and add 4 shots

USGA Rules of Handicapping includes Rule 3.3 Most Likely Score

For more info
https://www.usga.org/handicapping/roh/2020-rules-of-handicapping.html

 

[rulefan]

However CONGU has a different version of 3.3

3.3 When a Hole is Started But Player Does Not Hole Out
When a player starts a hole but does not hole out for a valid reason, subject to
other provisions set out within the Rules of Handicapping, the player must record
their score as appropriate for the situation and depending on the format of play,
for example, net double bogey or zero Stableford points.

Notes:
1. If the format of play does not allow a player to pick-up their ball before holing
out, for example an individual gross score or net score stroke play
competition, the player will be disqualified from the competition.
2. In a Maximum Score format of stroke play, there may be situations where a
player has not reached their net double bogey score before reaching the
maximum score as determined by the Terms of the Competition. In such
cases, the player should record either a net double bogey or zero Stableford
points (see Rules of Golf, Rule 21.2).

 

[3offTheTee]

Had our first medal yesterday. 162 entered and 27 N/R’d. Is that the norm?

 

[Swango1980]

Had our first medal yesterday. 162 entered and 27 N/R’d. Is that the norm?

How many NRs were complete no return of card, or players stopping playing the final holes? A no return for not completing a hole is no issue as far as handicaps are concerned