New scoring - MABLEFORD
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JustOne
Ryder Cup Winner
After yet another so-so round, Smiffy comes on all kind of proud and tells us in some depth about today's round.....
"Had a good one today. 32 points including 3 blobs and 4 Mables"
Has a certain ring to it
No, it has a certain familiarity to it!
:rofl::rofl::rofl:
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
However you tweak the scoring system James, you are still not going to win with 28 stableford points.
Or get to scratch.
PhilTheFragger
Provider of Entertainment for the Golfing Gods 🙄
Heavens to Betsy
Don't make it even more complicated
Sounds like the Golf equivilant of the Duckworth Lewis Method
Fragger
Don't make it even more complicated
Sounds like the Golf equivilant of the Duckworth Lewis Method
Fragger
JustOne
Ryder Cup Winner
HickoryShaft
Tour Rookie
I kinda like it but also recognise that it would affect mainly the high handicappers (in which band I include myself by the way) and in some ways think if misses the whole point of stableford which is to have a system that allows a more inclusice scoring system.
Isn't Stableford the usual winner on most polls that ask about scoring system preferences and encourages players of all abilities to join in comps.
And anyway the usual arguement is 3/4 or full H/C which effectively takes away the higher handicappers ability to score more than the lower Handicappers so there is already a method of tackling the higher handicappers opportunity to score well throughout the round.
In the work society the winner for a full H/C Stableford can be either a high or low H/C player - in the ones we play off 3/4 handicap its usually the lower players that win.
Or is the proposal Mableford and 3/4 handicap - that would really keep the potential winners list down to a minimum!!
For an enhanced version you could also introduce the rule that you pay an entry fee based on handicap say £1 per handicap point and winner takes all. That way the higher handicappers would have to fork out massive amounts to play , stand no chance of winning and line the pockets of the lower handicappers if they did foolishly venture out. And on the 2's holes as they have a lower chance of making 2 they could just put some money in and not actually enter just in case they offended siomeone by actually hitting a good shot!
Ahh wait - I've gone off on a tangent / rant there:rant:
I do like the system ....honest
Isn't Stableford the usual winner on most polls that ask about scoring system preferences and encourages players of all abilities to join in comps.
And anyway the usual arguement is 3/4 or full H/C which effectively takes away the higher handicappers ability to score more than the lower Handicappers so there is already a method of tackling the higher handicappers opportunity to score well throughout the round.
In the work society the winner for a full H/C Stableford can be either a high or low H/C player - in the ones we play off 3/4 handicap its usually the lower players that win.
Or is the proposal Mableford and 3/4 handicap - that would really keep the potential winners list down to a minimum!!
For an enhanced version you could also introduce the rule that you pay an entry fee based on handicap say £1 per handicap point and winner takes all. That way the higher handicappers would have to fork out massive amounts to play , stand no chance of winning and line the pockets of the lower handicappers if they did foolishly venture out. And on the 2's holes as they have a lower chance of making 2 they could just put some money in and not actually enter just in case they offended siomeone by actually hitting a good shot!
Ahh wait - I've gone off on a tangent / rant there:rant:
I do like the system ....honest
richart
Major Champion
Never got the hang of subtraction, so wouldn't be able to mark the card.
Who wants to play a game where you could end up with a minus score ? You could be beaten by someone who didn't play.:rofl:
JustOne
Ryder Cup Winner
Never got the hang of subtraction, so wouldn't be able to mark the card.
I doubt you'd triple bogey every hole with the amount of shots you get Richart..... actually, in your case you might be right :rofl:
richart
Major Champion
:rofl:
JustOne
Ryder Cup Winner
Stableford off 3/4 I can handle as it is what I'd deem as fair.
Stableford off the BACK TEES I can handle as that's the tees we all get our h/caps from.
If it's off the yellows or full h/cap then it should be mableford :thup:
I don't think it makes the higher h/capper suffer at all. I'm sure I made a blob and a mable at Camberley when I tripled the easy 13th (or 14th) that's a lot of ground to make back for me.....
Here's a question for you....How many greens in regulation might an 18 h/capper find off the front tees?
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
I don't think the Lib Dems will go for it.
dog377
Assistant Pro
1. Stableford is a fun game not proper golf
2. Par 4 with no shots means that most of the time you will take 4 if your handicap is right
3. The guy with a shot is a less skillful player and his handicap reflects that
Anyway, clearly this has generated quite a bit of interest so congrats on that.
Foxholer
Blackballed
I disagree. See link in my sig. Though it's 'good' to see you and Bob agreeing on something!.
Plain wrong!
Rather ruins the rest of the argument then.
Was posting last night when the site crashed that all you are doing is moving the goalposts towards the more consistent golfer. Just another scoring method. I'd still have scored 13 and 34 btw.
JustOne
Ryder Cup Winner
And following on with my question about how many greens you will hit in regulation....
I'd say that in a reasonable round of golf an 18 h/capper MIGHT hit 3 greens (might hit more might hit less)... now if he's getting a shot on every hole that'll be THREE eagle putts.
I can tell you the last time I had 3 eagle putts in one round - NEVER, even on a reasonable round,..... less than never when I play badly
I don't even know how many birdie putts I sometimes see a 13,14,15,16 handicapper have with all their shots but sometimes it's like playing against Faldo!
So yes they might blow up more often but these things have a way of balancing themselves out to constantly bring them home with a stack of points... which is why it should be -1 for total blowups.
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Foxholer
Blackballed
How many 4-pointers were scored at Camberley.
I only know of 1 and that certainly wasn't by a high 'capper! TXL may still have the cards to check.
I'm certainly content to play (stable) high handicappers in matches or Stableford. The statistics/method used for calculating their handicap means I'm likely to win more often if we play 'in buffer' (as my buffer is smaller than theirs) and they are also up to twice as likely as me to play (just) outside their buffer. The value of the reduction (.3 or .4 against .2) against the increase for being outside buffer (all .1) certainly indicates the higher 'capper is outside bugger more than a Cat 3 player.
I only know of 1 and that certainly wasn't by a high 'capper! TXL may still have the cards to check.
I'm certainly content to play (stable) high handicappers in matches or Stableford. The statistics/method used for calculating their handicap means I'm likely to win more often if we play 'in buffer' (as my buffer is smaller than theirs) and they are also up to twice as likely as me to play (just) outside their buffer. The value of the reduction (.3 or .4 against .2) against the increase for being outside buffer (all .1) certainly indicates the higher 'capper is outside bugger more than a Cat 3 player.
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rickg
Money List Winner
i played with 2 who had a 4.......Bratty had a 2 for 4 on a par 3 in the morrning and Jeremy had a 3 for 4 on the 18th in the afternoon, which beat my 3 for 3 and he pipped me by a point........
