Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
So you are happy to have England sports fans supporting Britain when playing other British teams.
That does not make much sense to me.
New anthem for English sports?
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So you are happy to have England sports fans supporting Britain when playing other British teams.
That does not make much sense to me.
ScienceBoy
Money List Winner
I think I identify more with being British than English, the cause of that? Well that is probably obvious in the anthem we have at the moment, our parliament, passports etc the list goes on.
If I was brought up in Wales or Scotland, I would probably identify as Welsh or Scottish respectively.
Its hard to want a change when I would identify less with the change.
So I don't really have an opinion on this topic.
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
What I find especially annoying is the tendency of the flag waving 'British' supporters referring to the Queen as the Queen of England.
A history professor, discussing the present Queens legacy, called her that on the TV only the other day.
If he had referred to her as the 'Queen of Scotland' I wonder what the reaction would have been.
A history professor, discussing the present Queens legacy, called her that on the TV only the other day.
If he had referred to her as the 'Queen of Scotland' I wonder what the reaction would have been.
NWJocko
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It really is amazing the chip some of us Scots have on their shoulder!
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NWJocko
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Some are very balanced though
The chip is on both
:thup:
Tend not to be the ones who treat Wings over Scotland as their Bible though!!! :rofl:
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Wings over Scotland sounds like that should be a line from a Scottish Anthem
Doon frae Troon
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Wings over Scotland sounds like that should be a line from a Scottish Anthem
Well at least we have one
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Well at least we have one
So do we :thup:
Doon frae Troon
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Three
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Absolutely delighted to read that this is being seriously put forward in parliament, when I first saw it I thought it was a hoax.
"We" are in a totally unique situation in that if we are English, Scottish, Northern Irish or Welsh, we do not officially have our own individual citizenship, we are "UK of GB&Northern Ireland" citizens (check your passport if you disagree). GB (England, Wales and Scotland) and Northern Ireland compete in the Olympics, whilst our Professional Golfers Association is actually the PGA of Great Britain and Ireland (all of Ireland).
The Northern Irish have a personal choice, they can identify as Irish, Northern Irish or British as is their preference.
Wales have their own sporting anthem, Scotland have the best in the world (in my personal opinion), and it's way overdue that us English had our own when we are playing as England.
My only issue is that we have all grown up with GSTQ, it's an integral part of our lives and psyche, introducing a new song now wouldn't be so passionate for those of us of a certain age, but I believe it is the way forward.
(I hope I haven't made any political mistakes there, if I did it's not intentional).
"We" are in a totally unique situation in that if we are English, Scottish, Northern Irish or Welsh, we do not officially have our own individual citizenship, we are "UK of GB&Northern Ireland" citizens (check your passport if you disagree). GB (England, Wales and Scotland) and Northern Ireland compete in the Olympics, whilst our Professional Golfers Association is actually the PGA of Great Britain and Ireland (all of Ireland).
The Northern Irish have a personal choice, they can identify as Irish, Northern Irish or British as is their preference.
Wales have their own sporting anthem, Scotland have the best in the world (in my personal opinion), and it's way overdue that us English had our own when we are playing as England.
My only issue is that we have all grown up with GSTQ, it's an integral part of our lives and psyche, introducing a new song now wouldn't be so passionate for those of us of a certain age, but I believe it is the way forward.
(I hope I haven't made any political mistakes there, if I did it's not intentional).
Three
Tour Rookie
For a new anthem, I would like to see something totally non-religious and non-confrontational or divisive , ie referring to victories, wars, Empire etc etc.
Something for the future, not harping on about the past.
I think they should hold a national competition to pen the lyrics.
Something for the future, not harping on about the past.
I think they should hold a national competition to pen the lyrics.
Definitely think we need something to reflect a modern England and not bygone days of colonialism or jingoism. I imagine (fear) we'll end up with Jerusalem. A good tune but a missed opportunity if so
Liverbirdie
Ryder Cup Winner
I dunno, I fancy something a bit more traditional.
Maybe we could get Wigan's Dave Whelan to pen us something.
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Land of Hope and Glory for me. Always thought that.
Sad thing is, footballers won't have a chance or remembering the words. So it'll get refused!
Sad thing is, footballers won't have a chance or remembering the words. So it'll get refused!
selwood90
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Well yes, not been a problem so far has it? Completely understand what your saying though, it does seem daft when you put it like that. But I don't see why all of a sudden it must change. There's far more pressing matters for these big wigs to be dealing with in our country and it's about time they got on with it.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Cannae have Jerusalem as it's religious and most of youse lot on here and everywhere else just diss anything religious as bad news, ken. So how could you have Jerusalem without being hypocrites so hands off (as if I really care about the song Jerusalem) - but just saying 
Look - Just take the Greensleeves or Jerusalem tune and add your own new words, much more sensible than trying to adopt or adapt existing words,
Look - Just take the Greensleeves or Jerusalem tune and add your own new words, much more sensible than trying to adopt or adapt existing words,
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
FoS? Used to get a thrill singing it and still love how Roy Williamson sings it as he originally wrote it - a slow reflective ballad - but now we know that 55% of those singing it don't actually believe in what they are singing about - rather loses it's power. Maybe we should adopt Dougie MacLean's Caledonia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP8A9rtg0iI
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