National Anthems

[Lord Tyrion]

A debate started on the Scottish football thread about FoS, I started talking about the need to change the UK anthem.

An anthem about 1 individual, who many have no time for, is not for me. Go into the other verses, which no one ever does to be fair, and it's about military victories, suppressing other nations. Dated and not exactly friendly.

FoS is equally set in the past, talking about battles and rivalries.

Surely we need to be more together, looking forward. More positive.

No need to be stuck with old words, old or existing lyrics. Why not commission new words new music?

Thoughts?

 

[rudebhoy]

Heroes - Bowie.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Oh, if it gets nasty it will get quickly locked. No need for that to happen.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Oh, if it gets nasty it will get quickly locked. No need for that to happen.

Land of Hope and Glory.
End of.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Land of Hope and Glory.
End of.

Great music, stunning. Certainly ticks the rousing box. Lyrics, less so.

Keep the music, change the words.

 

[Imurg]

Do we actually need one..?
Does any country?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

England has changed it's flag over the last 30 odd years to the St Georges Cross.
It now needs to do likewise with the British anthem they continue to use.

 

[rudebhoy]

Land of Hope and Glory.
End of.

Given the majority of the population are Atheist, maybe best not to have something religious?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

One interesting thing with this chat, I've actually been looking up all of the words to these songs. Some of them are quite hard to decipher.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Do we actually need one..?
Does any country?

Before international sporting events, medal awards, national events. Good to have

 

[SteveJay]

Great music, stunning. Certainly ticks the rousing box. Lyrics, less so.

Keep the music, change the words.

Why change the words......would be yet another woke gesture to try and forget history and patriotism

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Why change the words......would be yet another woke gesture to try and forget history and patriotism

The words are divisive to many, surely the opposite of what an anthem should be? An anthem should unify a country, ours doesn't.

 

[D-S]

Why change the words......would be yet another woke gesture to try and forget history and patriotism

There’s a difference between ‘forgetting’ and ‘not celebrating’ certain parts of history.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Don’t think you see too manh countries changing their national anthem and tbh not sure it matters too much in the grand scheme of things

GSTK is fine

Like the crowd doing Jerusalem before cricket

Not sure why anyone would get bothered by a national anthem

 

[rudebhoy]

Don’t think you see too manh countries changing their national anthem and tbh not sure it matters too much in the grand scheme of things

GSTK is fine

The bit about crushing rebellious Scots is not too popular north of the border.

 

[Morfeen75]

Do we actually need one..?
Does any country?

No and No.

 

[Fade and Die]

I think you are missing the point of a National Anthem, it’s supposed to raise the blood not just be a friendly ditty… Check out the lyrics of the French or Italian anthems… Stirring stuff.

Any talk of change because a few sensitive souls are uncomfortable is just ridiculous.

Personally I love FOS, I know it’s anti English but it’s a cracking dirge to rally to.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

The bit about crushing rebellious Scots is not too popular north of the border.







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So don’t be rebellious

Sorted

Tongue firmly in cheek

 

[PhilTheFragger]

Can we have our own Haka?

 

[IanM]

England has changed it's flag over the last 30 odd years to the St Georges Cross.
It now needs to do likewise with the British anthem they continue to use.

Hmm goes back to the 14th Century at least.

If you're talking about football fans previously using the Union Flag as well, that might be to differentiate ourselves to the rare occasions we are not the only Home Nation at a final